wire guage simple question

[patrick_g]

Since this is a tractor website..... and not an airplane or helicopter website.......


soundguy

Memory refresher: Recall, please, the discussion involving the magic conveyor belt and your personal involvement with same. I believe aircraft were extensively involved and discussed by several of us, you and I included.

Pat

 

[Soundguy]

Memory refresher: Recall, please, the discussion involving the magic conveyor belt and your personal involvement with same. I believe aircraft were extensively involved and discussed by several of us, you and I included.

Pat

Ah but.. that was a quite isolated case, quite a while back, discussed on a tractor board. ( "tractor by net".. not "airplane by net" ).

soundguy

 

[jlrsn]

Since this is a tractor website..... and not an airplane or helicopter website.
soundguy

Hi Chris,
I'd have answered your reply sooner but I was removing a foot and a half plus of fresh fallen snow after the passage of yesterday's storm.

Fully realizing that this is a tractor forum I just want to add that on my tractor, truck, car, motorcycle, or on a piece of equipment in my machine shop I still crimp the solderless connector but have been known to put a drop of solder on the lug end of the connector and then I encase the connector and part of the wire insulation with double wall shrink tubing. In as much that the crimp stops all wicking into the strands of wire I'm basically sealing the lug end. Old ingrained habits from when I went through aircraft electrical courses back in the 50's with follow up seminars over the last 50 years are hard to break but like I stated before no solder is used on aircraft connections. The fact that I held a FAA Part 237 Certificate for Aerial Application supporting agriculture plus frost abatement, cherry drying after rains, etc and that I lifted equipment to the fields when the tractors would get bogged down in the mud semi supports the use of a helicopter on a tractor forum or is that really stretching it?
Take care,
Jim

 

[jlrsn]

Memory refresher: Recall, please, the discussion involving the magic conveyor belt and your personal involvement with same. I believe aircraft were extensively involved and discussed by several of us, you and I included.
Pat

Thanks for the heads up Pat,
I'll have to go back and check on this
Jim

 

[Soundguy]

the shrink tube is a good idea.. I use them as strain relief. Same with the heat sink or crimp to prevent alot of wicking. I do both of these.. have yet to have a connection fail on a harness I built for my tractors in the last 10ys.. and they see alot of vibration and field work. My point was that good solder connections can be had.. if you put some time in it. The fact that they aren't used in airplanes doesn't diminish the fact that they are fine on most ground boundag vehicles for average practical purposes..

soundguy

Hi Chris,
I'd have answered your reply sooner but I was removing a foot and a half plus of fresh fallen snow after the passage of yesterday's storm.

Fully realizing that this is a tractor forum I just want to add that on my tractor, truck, car, motorcycle, or on a piece of equipment in my machine shop I still crimp the solderless connector but have been known to put a drop of solder on the lug end of the connector and then I encase the connector and part of the wire insulation with double wall shrink tubing. In as much that the crimp stops all wicking into the strands of wire I'm basically sealing the lug end. Old ingrained habits from when I went through aircraft electrical courses back in the 50's with follow up seminars over the last 50 years are hard to break but like I stated before no solder is used on aircraft connections. The fact that I held a FAA Part 237 Certificate for Aerial Application supporting agriculture plus frost abatement, cherry drying after rains, etc and that I lifted equipment to the fields when the tractors would get bogged down in the mud semi supports the use of a helicopter on a tractor forum or is that really stretching it?
Take care,
Jim

 

[patrick_g]

The fact that I held a FAA Part 237 Certificate for Aerial Application supporting agriculture plus frost abatement, cherry drying after rains, etc and that I lifted equipment to the fields when the tractors would get bogged down in the mud semi supports the use of a helicopter on a tractor forum or is that really stretching it?
Take care,
Jim

You have not only my personal permission but my heart felt request to carry on with your interesting and enlightening posts in total disregard of any naysayers. A little digression is a wonderful thing like seasoning in a stew. I strongly suspect the majority of readers agree with me.

Pat

 

[jlrsn]

Thanks Pat,
I'll try to not get carried away with off topic discussions but at times I have a lot to share that might be beneficial to readers especially with respect to their tractor operations and ownership.
Thanks again for your warm welcome!!
Jim

 

[Soundguy]

My point did not complain about his material being off topic.. but rather how practically it applied the the general discussion. IE>. is it really necescary to wire a tractor using aircraft standards? I suspect it would not be practical... That was my -ONLY- point I was trying to make. No anything else concerning topical or non topical.

soundguy

You have not only my personal permission but my heart felt request to carry on with your interesting and enlightening posts in total disregard of any naysayers. A little digression is a wonderful thing like seasoning in a stew. I strongly suspect the majority of readers agree with me.

Pat

 

[jlrsn]

Soundguy,
There was no offense taken on my behalf and as far as I'm concerned I consider that any prior posts were made with good intentions plus I noticed the smiley faces. One thing though is that I almost went blind looking for reference to the "magic conveyor belt" before I gave up.
Take care,
Jim

 

[Transit]

I have done the same when splicing cable that carries high current. At 300+ amps it does not take much resistance to make an unexceptable voltage drop, no vibration involved of course.