Loved Ones - Toyota

[Dmace]

I agree they're having their problems but name a corp. that hasn't done the same things that others say they are doing?

While they all have their recalls, not one domestic manufacturer (GM, Ford, & Chrysler) has ever been accused of withholding critical information that would hurt their case in the court of law. That is just ridiculous.

 

[Boondox]

While they all have their recalls, not one domestic manufacturer (GM, Ford, & Chrysler) has ever been accused of withholding critical information that would hurt their case in the court of law. That is just ridiculous.

Between this and the revelations of employees sabotaging cars at GM plants to "get even" with management, I just hope in the end that we consumers come out with some real benefits. I fear, however, that our sage lawmakers will write some feel good legislation that hammers us with additional costs. The Tire Pressure Monitoring System is a great example. Because dimwits couldn't be bothered to check their tire pressure now and then, I'm saddled with TPMS sensors that DOUBLE the cost of a new set of tires. $110 each for my snow tires, plus $125 each for new TPMS sensors! The original sensors only had 3k miles on them, but tire vendors are so terrified of lawsuits they don't dare reuse them.

 

[JESSE1]

I had new Michelin tires installed last December on my '07 Expedition and the same sensors were used. It took about 15 minutes for the low air pressure alarm to clear but no problems since.

 

[Bird]

I had new Michelin tires installed last December on my '07 Expedition and the same sensors were used. It took about 15 minutes for the low air pressure alarm to clear but no problems since.

Maybe they're a different kind of sensors, but our 2001 Ford Windstar had the low tire indicator in the instrument panel, and it did work. The owner's manual told how to reset it after a tire repair, changing tire pressures, or replacing tires and that worked also.

 

[JESSE1]

When I had the tires changed there was no mention of having to change sensors. My sister has a GMC Acadia and had new Goodyear tires installed last fall. The same sensors were used, no one said anything about having to use new ones. Unless they're damaged some way, I don't know any reason they would have to be changed.

 

[patrick_g]

Yep, Wedge, I remember it well and really like it. If anyone wants to hear the music with it, try YouTube. I think that's the original singers.

Thanks for the link. Bird. I really like that song and the hot rod Lincoln and ... (you get the idea)

Little Egypt, Little blue man, Flying purple people eater, Alley Oop, and on and on and on and not a single word you'd be embarrassed to play for your Sunday School class. ...meanwhile, back in the states...

Pat

 

[archerm3]

While they all have their recalls, not one domestic manufacturer (GM, Ford, & Chrysler) has ever been accused of withholding critical information that would hurt their case in the court of law. That is just ridiculous.

Really? Ford Pinto/Chevy Corvair much? LOL.

 

[wedge40]

While they all have their recalls, not one domestic manufacturer (GM, Ford, & Chrysler) has ever been accused of withholding critical information that would hurt their case in the court of law. That is just ridiculous.

Must not be old enough to remember the Ford Pintos. Ford not only new of the problem for years but figured the extra $0.50 pre car wasn't worth it. They took the risk of law suites and lost.

Wedge

 

[BobRip]

We have not heard of any more problems lately. Is that correct?

 

[crazyal]

Never once had a problem with my Tundra but I'm also smart enough to simply turn the key to the acc position to shut off the engine. The problem is just what my 5th grade math teacher told me would happen with the invention of the calculator. People would forget how to do math, well people are forgetting how to drive.

For all those american companies would never do something like this I have a story for you. I was driving a friends 2002 GMC 1 ton pulling a flat bed trailer when a lady in front of me started to slow. As I pushed on the brake pedal it went right to the floor. I tried pumping it but that just set off the anti-lock brake motor, the pedal still went to the floor. Having the choice of driving into oncoming traffic, a group of kids on the side of the road I made the choice to hit the car in front of us. We plowed right through the car in front of us like it was a shopping cart. If not for the electric brakes on the trailer it would have been miles before I could have stopped that truck.

In the following months then years I read on the internet of numerous GM trucks doing the same thing. Even the insurance company inspector who came to look at the truck said he see was seeing about 20 GMs a year with this exact same problem. GM never acknowledged that they had a problem, still to this day they have never once issued a recall.

All I ask is that the company who has a problem try their best to fix it. That doesn't always mean that at the first hint of a problem they need to run the flag up the pole and start recalling everything but they neither can deny any problem in the face of proof.

I think Toyota did OK, maybe a little slow but how fast does one decide that 8 million plus cars and trucks need to be repaired when it's unclear exactly what the problem is. If I was going to buy a new truck I would most likely buy another Tundra.