Loved Ones - Toyota

[valley]

If you turn the key off you lose breaks and steering some even lock the steering wheel. Could put it in neutral.

 

[brandoro]

If you turn the key off you lose breaks and steering some even lock the steering wheel. Could put it in neutral.

If you turn off the key you lose the power assist on the steering, makes it harder to turn but certainly not impossible. If you feel the need to pump the brakes you will lose the power assist for your brakes quickly but you can still stop with increased effort. If you stand on the brakes and maintain steady pressure the power assist will stay with you for quite a while. If you shut the key off, remove it from the ignition and put it in your pocket the steering wheel will lock but I doubt you will be able to do that without putting the gear selector in Park first. That isn't impossible either while travelling but not recommended.

 

[dcyrilc]

Never once had a problem with my Tundra but I'm also smart enough to simply turn the key to the acc position to shut off the engine. The problem is just what my 5th grade math teacher told me would happen with the invention of the calculator. People would forget how to do math, well people are forgetting how to drive.

For all those american companies would never do something like this I have a story for you. I was driving a friends 2002 GMC 1 ton pulling a flat bed trailer when a lady in front of me started to slow. As I pushed on the brake pedal it went right to the floor. I tried pumping it but that just set off the anti-lock brake motor, the pedal still went to the floor. Having the choice of driving into oncoming traffic, a group of kids on the side of the road I made the choice to hit the car in front of us. We plowed right through the car in front of us like it was a shopping cart. If not for the electric brakes on the trailer it would have been miles before I could have stopped that truck.

In the following months then years I read on the internet of numerous GM trucks doing the same thing. Even the insurance company inspector who came to look at the truck said he see was seeing about 20 GMs a year with this exact same problem. GM never acknowledged that they had a problem, still to this day they have never once issued a recall.

All I ask is that the company who has a problem try their best to fix it. That doesn't always mean that at the first hint of a problem they need to run the flag up the pole and start recalling everything but they neither can deny any problem in the face of proof.

I think Toyota did OK, maybe a little slow but how fast does one decide that 8 million plus cars and trucks need to be repaired when it's unclear exactly what the problem is. If I was going to buy a new truck I would most likely buy another Tundra.

I have to fully agree with you. My only complaint with our '07 Tundra is that Toyota doesn't make a 3/4Ton or 1Ton model. Love the truck.

 

[archerm3]

If you turn the key off you lose breaks and steering some even lock the steering wheel. Could put it in neutral.

waaaahhhh? I don't know of any vehicle that loses breaks or brakes when you turn the key to off.

 

[Egon]

The motor may have to be turning over to provide vacuum so the brakes will be properly applied.

 

[patrick_g]

While they all have their recalls, not one domestic manufacturer (GM, Ford, & Chrysler) has ever been accused of withholding critical information that would hurt their case in the court of law. That is just ridiculous.

What about GM and their pickup trucks with fuel tanks on the outside of the frame on the sides where they were exposed to impact? Real honorable huh? It was cheaper for GM to let folks take their chances with an inherently dangerous design than to correct the problem. GM had lawyers on retainer and it was cheaper for GM to fight the lawsuits than to make the trucks safe for the drivers so they went with the $ not public safety. YUP a terrific display of goodwill toward the public. Diogenes didn't tarry long at GM!!!

Pat

 

[Gator6x4]

The Toyota Motor Company seems to be learning from previous missteps. NEW YORK - Toyota Motor Corp. is temporarily halting sales of the 2010 Lexus GX 460 after Consumer Reports issued a rare "Don't Buy" warning amid concerns the large SUV has handling problems that could cause it to roll over during sharp turns.
The Japanese automaker said Tuesday it had asked dealers to temporarily suspend sales of the SUV while it conducts its own tests on the GX 460. I wonder why they failed to respond sooner on other vehicles before they manufactured eight (8) million vehicles with a defect?

 

[wallace]

Well....Hate to tell you guys this but my mother-in-law just wrecked her 2 month old Rav4...
She was in the process of exiting a parking garage and on her way down the the round d round ramp she said the car started to speed up and she pushed the brakes as hard as she could and the car would not even slow down...after hitting the curb and scuffing the wall she managed to get the car into neutral and stop the car with the e-brake.
She then put the car back into gear and it started to immediately take of again, she put it into neutral and the shut the car off.
Once she restarted the car everything was fine.
She blew the right front tire out when she hit the curb.
Now keep in mind she was only going maybe 10 mph.
They changed the tire and drove the car to the Toyota dealer which was only about 10 miles away.
She explained what happened to the service manager and he stated that the only reason why she could not stop the car was because the rim was spinning inside of the tire due to the bead being broke??
Well I guess you can tell a 62 year old lady anything.
She came to me crying and shaking and ask me what she should do.
I call the service manage and he said he never said anything like that
I pull the blown tire out of the back of her car and the bead was not broke on either side so guess he didn't even look.
Well long story short...she was in contact with Toyota and they gave her a case number and said they would get back to her.
She does not even want the car anymore and will not drive it.

Ya here is the good part..When she bought the car the dealer told her that this one will not have any problems cause it was made in Japan not the US!!!!!

 

[Car Doc]

The whole thing has been blown so far out of proportion no one knows the truth any more. That's my honest opinion take it or leave it I felt I had to say something after reading some of the posts here. I work on Toyota and Honda almost exclusively best brands on the planet imo.

I feel real bad for anyone who has had an accident etc its not that but the facts don't add up in every case I have personally read about, and being in the auto repair business and working on Toyota's and Honda's almost exclusively I find 99% of the Toyota claims hard to believe in more ways than just the "gas pedal stuck", age, floor mats, pure chance.

I see so many floor mats jammed up on the gas pedal or under the brake pedal on a monthly basis in every type of car I am surprised there arnt more accidents reported or wait maybe its easier to blame someone else?.

Oh btw its the pedal assembly's that are made in the US that are allegedly the bad ones the Denso's from Japan are allegedly ok maybe that's what some people are misunderstanding? fwtw.

Steve

 

[Car Doc]

If you turn the key off you lose breaks and steering some even lock the steering wheel. Could put it in neutral.

I am not aware of any car or truck after about 1969 whatever that will allow the steering wheel to lock with the gear shift in any position other than park presuming there isn't another mechanical problem with the lock mechanism-very very-very slight possibility compared to topic. Fact actually getting a car into park or reverse while moving is unrealistic given the dynamics neutral is more realistic you are absolutely right there.

Steve