2011 Superduty are out! ! !

[Dmace]

I think you heard wrong.

Wow, another great post from Duffster just full of useful information that pertains to the subject on hand. Where do I go to nominate the member of the month? :laughing:
If you have nothing useful to add as usual then why post at all?

 

[Duffster]

Wow, another great post from Duffster just full of useful information that pertains to the subject on hand. Where do I go to nominate the member of the month? :laughing:
If you have nothing useful to add as usual then why post at all?

If there is an award for blind brand bashng then I will nominate you.

Anyone that has done more than 10 minutes of reading can see what you "heard" is inaccurate. I didn't feel the need to explain it all but thank you to the posters that did.

 

[Big Bri]

Then you've heard wrong. The urea tank is 5 gallons. It is expected to be topped off (not totally refilled) at each oil change. The expected mileage is 7,000 to 12,000 miles per 5 gallons depending upon how the vehicle is used. Urea is currently available in 1 gallon, 2.5 gallon, 5 gallon, and 55 gallon size containers.

The use of urea with a diesel is nothing new. Diesel cars and trucks in Europe have used urea for the past several years. The BMW diesel and Mercedes diesel cars imported into the U.S. all use urea. A number of heavy duty diesel motor manufacturers currently use DEF for their motors - Cummins still does not.

Most of the diesel exhaust fluid (DEF) is manufactured and distributed by Tera Environmental Technologies (TET). DEF reduces nitrogen oxides (NOx) as it is a catalyst.

On the Dodge pickups, Cummins uses "super EGR" which is more gas recirculation, higher turbo boost pressures, and higher fuel injection pressures. There is also a close-coupled catalyst (CCC) mounted after the turbine. A small amount of fuel is sprayed into the CCC and chemically oxidized. As this happens the exhaust temperature increases allowing the downstream catalytic converter to work more effectively.

There are pros and cons with both systems. The problem with the super EGR approach is that it reduces the air to fuel ratio, and that, plus the use of the CCC, may reduce fuel mileage. An example of the air / fuel ratio change comparing a 1998 motor to the 2010 - the air / fuel ratio for the 1998 Cummins was 28:1 and in the new motor it will be 20:1.

Good info Thanks, I'm still learning about all these new trucks.

 

[dodge man]

There are more than a few brand loyal people on the web site, me included, so lets not kid ourselves. What I would like to know about the mileage test is how the vehicles were equiped? Similar rear gears, transmissions, options, weight etc?

 

[swines]

Good info Thanks, I'm still learning about all these new trucks.

You're welcome. The DEF is easy to replenish. When you open the fuel door there is a second filler cap (blue) that is smaller than the diesel filler cap. There is also a warning that will come on in the instrument cluster when you have 800 miles to empty on the DEF tank. The idea being that you will have to fill up the vehicle with diesel prior to running out of DEF. DEF is currently available at all major truck stops; and the auto parts stores + Wally World are starting to carry it.

 

[scoutcub]

Back on topic, I went to the Ford web site to check em out.....
Don't really know if I'm so keen on the new looks. As another member said, might have to grow on me. And the wheel well over the dually looks boxier, not as streamlined as my 06.....just a few observations.When I went for the build on the f450 cc diesel KR, the starting price was at 63K! After navigation system, upfitter switches, moonroof, et.etc. you're be in the 70's real quick.
There are some nice ideas in there though,,,,,,

 

[swines]

When I went for the build on the f450 cc diesel KR, the starting price was at 63K! After navigation system, upfitter switches, moonroof, et.etc. you're be in the 70's real quick.

Actually - no. I did a build of a 350 and a 450 before I ordered my F350. The difference is about $5K between them, which is the base price difference between the F350 and F450. If you look carefully at the F450 crewcab, it's already decked out with 4 wheel drive and about every option you can get - so you really don't add up the options unless you want the moon roof and navigation package. My F350 MSRP was about $63K. The F450 was about $67+.

I added the heavy duty alternator (200 amps), camper package, 5th wheel prep, and spray-in bed liner. The F450 comes with a limited slip 4:30 rear end. The limited slip on the F350 is an option - and about $1200 because they're no longer using a clutch-pack system but a gear locker system (haven't looked into that any further to figure out how it works).

 

[Diamondpilot]

I'm surprised no one has commented on "mustangsallysdad" post on the F350 "Super Duty", 4X4, SRW, CC, 6.7L with (3.31 gears); are you going to have to push with your feet to get these things rolling:laughing:

The 3.31 gears will not hurt a bit in these new trucks. Gone is the day of low gears in the rear end with 6 speed trannys. They make the first 2 gears so low that they are equal too or better than 4.10's and you benefit on the top end with a tall gear in the tranny to make that 3.31 shine.

I am sure Dodge and GM will follow.

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

I want to swap rides for a week ( without the passenger ) and check out this new gold brick. With all the shouting about power and fuel mileage..... I like to form my own opinions on real life usage. Of course if your limited to 50 miles and a 10 minute test drive.................. I don't believe the hoopla.

Not at my dealer. I pick up trucks on Saturday morning and bring them back on Monday or just keep them and they bring the paperwork to my house. My brother-N-law just did that with a F-150 purchase and he lives 75 miles away. They came to his house to sign the paper work and the only thing they asked was what was for dinner.

Chris

 

[sld]

The advantages of the 6.2 over the V10 (6.8L) - 6.2 weighs less, much better fuel mileage.

Don't get too carried away about the mileage increase of the 6.2. I spend some time on Ford Truck Enthusiasts and they had a long thread that involved the lead project engineer for the 6.2. While it is more efficient, on paper it was only in the range of 6-7 percent.

Well..... 6-7 percent of a rather low number to begin with is a pretty small number. Plus, that was just the brake specific fuel consumption (or whatever they call it). Real world in a 7500 lb truck it may not show any increases. As a rule, smaller displacement engines have to work harder to pull the same load.

I am very disappointed Ford chose to go with a smaller displacement, higher revving engine. Didn't they learn from Dodge's mistake of putting the hemi in a heavy duty truck? (sorry Dmace, just have to jab you in the ribs when I can):laughing: