Air brakes do not require a CDL even in commercial use.
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Air brakes do not require a CDL even in commercial use.
dcyrilc
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They do in Washington State. Class B commercial for air brakes. Doesn't matter the weight. If it's commercial and has air brakes, Class B license required.
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It is a very common misconception that air brakes need a CDL.
It mentions nothing here.
http://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/cdlguide.pdf
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I don't know whether such still exists or not, but many years ago, there was a company that made an RV on an 18-wheeler semi. I know there are some big fifth-wheel rigs that use big trucks now, but they're usually single axle trucks. The one I'm talking about looked like any other 18-wheeler, but with windows in the trailer and was a high dollar rig that I'm sure never sold many. They advertised that it would be delivered with porterhouse steaks in the refrigerator.:laughing:
Another RV idea that hardly got off the ground was when Winnebago worked with Sikorski to build a helicopter motorhome. I think they only built 2 or 3 of them.:laughing:
dcyrilc
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Looks like it has changed since I got my CDL. "An air brake
endorsement is only required if your vehicle needs a CDL."
dcyrilc
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I got my CDL right after being pulled over and ticketed for no CDL on a 24K fixed load vehicle with air brakes years ago. The judge, when we took it to court, said "Weight didn't matter if it had air brakes.". He gave me 90 days to get my CDL and suspended the ticket when I provided proof I had aquired a CDL.
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Most of the big coaches have air brakes. Tiffin uses them in all the pushers. THey even have IFS on some of the larger ones. I hear alot of people say they dont like air brakes that they are trouble but I see them as safer, easier to maintain. Tiffin has Cummins in their buses I think a few run MB engines. They used to use Cat to but Cat has dropped thier Truck motors. Mr. Tiffin told dad last year that he was on his last two Cat motors one morning.
I like the days at the landfill when its slow and I get to do parking lot maintenance, meas you get to look around at the bus chassis and such. Its really neat to watch one buss get made. When we first were bought by them we got to follow a bus from frame to finish in a 10 hour day.
On the CDL requirements you have to have a CDL to deliver but dont to own and drive one. THe only one I know of that has had trouble was a fella that had a welding shop built into a 30 foot trailer on the back.
I like the days at the landfill when its slow and I get to do parking lot maintenance, meas you get to look around at the bus chassis and such. Its really neat to watch one buss get made. When we first were bought by them we got to follow a bus from frame to finish in a 10 hour day.
On the CDL requirements you have to have a CDL to deliver but dont to own and drive one. THe only one I know of that has had trouble was a fella that had a welding shop built into a 30 foot trailer on the back.
dcyrilc
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I was just challenged to look up the rules and in the Washington book it says, "Recreational vehicle (RV) operators are exempt when driving an RV for non-commercial purposes. This exemption includes 2-axle rental trucks and horse trailers."
Don't feel bad, I know of a few LEO's that still don't know about the change in the law. :confused2:
