HOw did they clean up after a flood in old days?

   / HOw did they clean up after a flood in old days? #11  
The people who get flooded out are typically at the "low end of the ladder". I would venture to say that they salvaged what they could and burned the rest. I would also say that they salvage what most would toss these days. Nor was everything made to be "squeaky clean" after some kind of event. Piles of debris would simply be left to rot however long it might take. As with today, location did dictate the return to normalacy.
 
   / HOw did they clean up after a flood in old days? #12  
Someone in my family has pictures of my grandfather in a row boat rescuing people from 3rd floor windows during a flood in Cincinnati, probably between 1910 AND 1930. I wish I had a copy. If you go down to the small towns around Cincinnati along the Ohio river, you can see high water marks and dates painted on the sides of some of the older buildings. Pretty neat history lesson, but people fail to learn from those lessons, as there are still people living there and below those high water marks. After hearing those stories and seeing the history myself with a personal tie to it, I was not in favor of money being spent to rebuild New Orleans after Katrina. It is just going to happen again and again and again. The same thing goes for people living on the flood plains of any river, the shores of the Great Lakes or the Oceans. If you have private insurance, then by all means, go ahead and rebuild. Just don't expect other people to help pay for your bad judgment.

History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man. Godzilla!
 
   / HOw did they clean up after a flood in old days? #13  
Driving past Opryland Mall today, the parking lot is full.....of tractor trailers and flood clean up contractors. Downtown, some of the streets on Broadway also have numerous flood clean up contractor rigs. Some of these buildings still standing in downtown were built in the 1800's before the TVA dam system, and there must have been floods in the past before electrification came through much less any of the current clean up systems.

So how did they clean up after a flood in the old days? Any thoughts or opinions on modern flood "restoration" services---does shiny big colorful truck equate to a huge clean up bill for the insurance company? What does it do for the property owner?

My guess: different times and different techniques. Probably didn't expect it to be so "clean" either.

One thing for sure....They weren't standing around waiting and blaming the government to burp them and give them a bottle!:eek::)
 
   / HOw did they clean up after a flood in old days?
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MossRoad, I bet the date of the Cincinnati flood is Jan. 27, 1927 as part of the great 1927 Mississippi flood. http://www.rms.com/Publications/1927_MississippiFlood.pdf

Didn't Gavelston, TX undergo some other natural disaster in the 1960's or so? Can't remember if it was a flood or a hurricane.

Opryland theme park flooded in the late 70's or early 80's as I recall before it was converted into a shopping mall.

There is a reason why the land around the river is flat when everything else around it is hilly.
 
   / HOw did they clean up after a flood in old days? #15  
MossRoad, I bet the date of the Cincinnati flood is Jan. 27, 1927 as part of the great 1927 Mississippi flood. http://www.rms.com/Publications/1927_MississippiFlood.pdf

Didn't Gavelston, TX undergo some other natural disaster in the 1960's or so? Can't remember if it was a flood or a hurricane.

Opryland theme park flooded in the late 70's or early 80's as I recall before it was converted into a shopping mall.

There is a reason why the land around the river is flat when everything else around it is hilly.

Turns out it was the 1937 flood of the Ohio river from Pittsburgh to Cairo, Illinois. My mom was about 10, according to my aunt. Cincinnati had a flood wall built 10' higher than the flood level. Too bad the river went 29' over flood level! :shocked:
 
   / HOw did they clean up after a flood in old days? #16  
As far as clean up goes I bet buildings weren't as 'tight', lots of air circulation would help them dry out pretty good before mold set in. Less/no materials like sheetrock and insulation to trap and retain moisture.
 
   / HOw did they clean up after a flood in old days?
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The old buildings don't appear to be tight for sure. They also have very high ceilings. As I recall, many of them have brick walls with interior plaster directly over the brick. They have wooden joints and floors. You're correct that there isn't a void between studs filled with fiberglass covered by drywall in these older buildings at least before they were rennovated.

I don't know what you could do to clean the walls in these older buildings except wash off the plaster.
 
   / HOw did they clean up after a flood in old days? #18  
I am willing to bet that a lot of folks with damage didn't have flood insurance. Their homeowner policies don't cover flood damage. This makes things incredibly worse for those involved. - Mike
 
   / HOw did they clean up after a flood in old days? #19  
Well having grown up in the swamps before everybody got rich and all insured and such, I can tell you a thing or two about flooding. We always looked at floods as pretty much natural and a gift from Mother Nature. You get a good hurricane come ashore and you can pretty much figure on living wet for a few days or a week, that's what we call it when the floor is underwater. I can recall a couple times when we jacked the beds up on mater juice cans filled with small stones and pinned the blanket up to the edge of the mattress so it didn't dip in the water and get wet while you slept.

Worst part was snakes & skeeters, of course they are always a part of life in the swamp but they get a lot thicker when the water comes up. Mom always had a few cashes stashed in barrels on high ground, man if we woulda had plastic barrels back then we woulda thought we died and went to heaven. Whole trick to flooding is making the best of it, and getting to work right quick as the water goes down. We always kept some Fels Naptha soap up in the rafters so it'd be handy when the water started down. Generally the floor would have a few gaps between boards, and you take a board up about the middle of the floor so you can dip a broom, and get to wetsweeping the mud off the walls and such as the water drops. Then you broom the mud off th efloor and get to washing everything down withthe Fels. I think I may still have a callous or two on my knees from scrubbing away at the floor. If you were lucky and knew somebody who worked for one of the oil companies like Gulf, they might come by with one of them little gasoline pumps on a boat, and you could take that hose and do a real easy cleanup with it.

Later on when I went to work for the Gulf Oil as a trucker and lived with my sister and husband in town it seemed like people had no dang idea how to clean up after. Of course most city houses sit right down on the ground not up on posts, so when the water comes it pretty much gets everything. There was one came through in the 50s I remember well. Sister and I got out the cans and husband just stood there looking like he was lightning struck. He was a city boy. Well we jacked up the furniture and then we grabbed the boards up and put together this sort of second floor just about 4 feet up from the floor and stuck everything up there. The neighbors all stood looking dumb and watching. They pretty much dragged their wet stuff to the curb and we brought outs back down when the place dried out. That was a bad one where sister lived, she had that little Kaiser automobile I bought her, and by time it was obvious the neighborhood was going under that car didn't have a chance. No way we was letting a year old car flood out, so we got a couple planks and 4 barrels and made that car into a raft. We took a tree branch and tied it to the front bumper of the Kaiser and tied the back to my Diamond T pickup and drove right to high ground with people looking at us swampers like we lost out minds. Shoot, we saved ur stuff and hauled the neighbor kids to high ground while the rest stood around and looked. That Diamond T was pulling a Kaiser and 3 rowboats and never missed a beat going through 3 foot deep water. Dang good thing nobody thought of strapping a couple boards to their feet or I might have been pulling a waterskier too. Of curse the brakes weren't worth much after till I got em washed out good and dried, but we was on high ground.

Now the thing I never could understand is why people who don't have to build on low ground next to a river and expect it not to flood out in a wet year. Then the government comes along and builds high concrete walls just back fromthe river, and everybody stands around a few years later watching the river come over that wall. What do you expect, that river carrys a lot of dirt from upstream, and that dirt stays between them walls. You fill the riverbottom with dirt the water level's going to get higher. Good Lord you can't fill a bathtub with dirt and expect to put 5 cans of water in it like you could before the dirt was in there.

Sure seems like the more people go to them colleges the more good sense they either forget or don't learn. Then again people seem to be too good to work and keep themselves out of trouble these days. I sure don't know where they get all the money to buy stuff and then try selling it to the insurance company, and I can't figure how they think that idea's going to last long. Talekd to a fellow here a while back who was looking to buy a house and was all set to go till they told him he had to buy flood insurance too. The house sits on a hill, and water would need to come up 15 feet to get tohis yard, but some brilliant fellow went and drew a map so he was supposed to pay $2500 a year for flood insurance on top of paying for the house. He said he spent a day trying to talk sense to people at the bank before he just gave up and went looking for another house.
 
   / HOw did they clean up after a flood in old days? #20  
The house sits on a hill, and water would need to come up 15 feet to get tohis yard, but some brilliant fellow went and drew a map so he was supposed to pay $2500 a year for flood insurance on top of paying for the house.

To say that would be weird, I think, would be an understatement. Mortgage companies do not require flood insurance in my neighborhood, but I learned that some houses a couple of hundred yards from us flooded before the current drainage system was built, and the National Flood Insurance maps show a "moderate" risk. I don't think this neighborhood would ever flood again, but then we've not had one of those 12 to 15 inch rains in one day. And if my house ever gets water in it, the town's one and only police station will be inundated. However, I renewed my flood iinsurance day before yesterday.:D The premiums went up from $277 to $284 this year for $125k coverage on the house and $50k coverage on contents.
 

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