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Diamondpilot
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While this may be true about there being different lines I have owned 3 trailers with Carlisle tires and all 3 sets failed within two years. 2 trailers were tandem and the one in my signiture is a tri axle. I sell boats and I have never seen a set of Carlisle tires make it past 2 years.
I check the pressure once a month or more so I know that is not it. I replaced everyone with Greenball Tow Masters and have not had one single issue.
Same thing happened with my Car Haul trailer. It came with used car tires and I ran it that way for 5 years. Not one flat. I then put 4 new Goodyear Marathons on and 2 failed in 2 years both times pulling my dads Corvette. I again put on Tow Masters and 2 years later and tons of trucks and much heavier equipment pulled and not one issue.
I am convinced.
Chris
I check the pressure once a month or more so I know that is not it. I replaced everyone with Greenball Tow Masters and have not had one single issue.
Same thing happened with my Car Haul trailer. It came with used car tires and I ran it that way for 5 years. Not one flat. I then put 4 new Goodyear Marathons on and 2 failed in 2 years both times pulling my dads Corvette. I again put on Tow Masters and 2 years later and tons of trucks and much heavier equipment pulled and not one issue.
I am convinced.
Chris
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Carlisle Tire & Wheel Company
Bias Line
Carlisle Tire & Wheel Company
Radial Line
Carlisle Tire & Wheel Company
Bias - a guess the last one in this list may be what you have.
You can match up the sizes and deduct if you have one of these three lines or another.
On that trailer only a E (LRE) load rating is going to give any margin of safety if you are going to fully load it. I expect that only radials will go that high based on these charts. This will give you around 3000 pounds of load rating per tire.
Read on your tires what the load rating is in POUNDS. Hopeful at 65 PSI they are good for 2500 pounds. Technically four would give you 10K gross capacity BUT they will not provide the protection against blow out and other problems that a E rated tire that would be good for more like 3000 pounds each.
If you will buy a new set of E rated (3000 pounds) of most any brand of radial tires and put them on the front axle AND your hitch height permits you to tow with the trailer level you will be in good shape. When you replace the current ones get the same your two new ones IF they have given you good service.
There is no way on God's green earth for a man to load a twin axle trailer with a gross of 10K pounds and have 2500 on each tire.
This is why the 80% rule is provided by the tire experts.
As a rule any tire on any equipment hauling trailer with < Load Rating of "E" will leave a bad taste in your mouth. In the case of RV's it is even more critical due to the $$$$ of damage a blowout can cause to the RV itself.
Look at the LRE tires in the charts where the last letter denotes load rating. See their weight and tread thickness. Just in tread you get 30% more so that offsets some of the higher cost because of longer tread life.
Do not fret over what you may not have but just know if you fully load the trailer with less than E rated tires from any brand you choose the will be trouble so just back off with the load you put on it.
Hint 1: At some point you will be tempted to over gross your trailer.
Hint 2: There is NOTHING cheap about low quality tires. Quality only cost ONCE but it up front.
Get you a set of E or better (watch rim PSI limits when hitting F or above tires for anything) and get to trucking.
Shop because I got Carlise UT tires C rated for much less than for B rated by shopping. Find you a small tire store managed by the owner and talk with him or her.
Consider Greenball based on Chris' personal experience and business experience. Just so not overload what you currently own.
Bias Line
Carlisle Tire & Wheel Company
Radial Line
Carlisle Tire & Wheel Company
Bias - a guess the last one in this list may be what you have.
You can match up the sizes and deduct if you have one of these three lines or another.
On that trailer only a E (LRE) load rating is going to give any margin of safety if you are going to fully load it. I expect that only radials will go that high based on these charts. This will give you around 3000 pounds of load rating per tire.
Read on your tires what the load rating is in POUNDS. Hopeful at 65 PSI they are good for 2500 pounds. Technically four would give you 10K gross capacity BUT they will not provide the protection against blow out and other problems that a E rated tire that would be good for more like 3000 pounds each.
If you will buy a new set of E rated (3000 pounds) of most any brand of radial tires and put them on the front axle AND your hitch height permits you to tow with the trailer level you will be in good shape. When you replace the current ones get the same your two new ones IF they have given you good service.
There is no way on God's green earth for a man to load a twin axle trailer with a gross of 10K pounds and have 2500 on each tire.
This is why the 80% rule is provided by the tire experts.
As a rule any tire on any equipment hauling trailer with < Load Rating of "E" will leave a bad taste in your mouth. In the case of RV's it is even more critical due to the $$$$ of damage a blowout can cause to the RV itself.
Look at the LRE tires in the charts where the last letter denotes load rating. See their weight and tread thickness. Just in tread you get 30% more so that offsets some of the higher cost because of longer tread life.
Do not fret over what you may not have but just know if you fully load the trailer with less than E rated tires from any brand you choose the will be trouble so just back off with the load you put on it.
Hint 1: At some point you will be tempted to over gross your trailer.
Hint 2: There is NOTHING cheap about low quality tires. Quality only cost ONCE but it up front.
Get you a set of E or better (watch rim PSI limits when hitting F or above tires for anything) and get to trucking.
Shop because I got Carlise UT tires C rated for much less than for B rated by shopping. Find you a small tire store managed by the owner and talk with him or her.
Consider Greenball based on Chris' personal experience and business experience. Just so not overload what you currently own.
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I have never owned a single thing with Bias or will I ever. Everything has been radial and we even go to the trouble of putting all the boat trailers on Jack Stands during the off season to prevent sinking and flat spotting.
Chris
Chris
I have the Radial tires rated at 2540lbs each....I have adjustments in both the pintle plate on the truck as well as the mounting plate on the tongue of the trailer. So I at least am able to tow it perfectly level.
I have no local tires places near me except the large chain stores, and even they don't carry trailer tires. They have to "get them from the warehouse".
I compared their prices to tires I have seen on ebay. Ebay is definitely cheaper prices but they are also brands I have never heard of. And I don't want to swap 1 bad tire for another.
Chris - Where can I get the tires you talk about? Do you have a local dealer that gets them for you? Online source?
Thanks again for all the info. I hope to be able to milk two of the Carlisle tires for a bit until funds allow replacement.
BTW the tire size is 225/75/15, The guy I bought the trailer from didn't put the wrong tires on it right.....?
I have no local tires places near me except the large chain stores, and even they don't carry trailer tires. They have to "get them from the warehouse".
I compared their prices to tires I have seen on ebay. Ebay is definitely cheaper prices but they are also brands I have never heard of. And I don't want to swap 1 bad tire for another.
Chris - Where can I get the tires you talk about? Do you have a local dealer that gets them for you? Online source?
Thanks again for all the info. I hope to be able to milk two of the Carlisle tires for a bit until funds allow replacement.
BTW the tire size is 225/75/15, The guy I bought the trailer from didn't put the wrong tires on it right.....?
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225/75/15 is a very common trailer size. You have the right size. The only other real option in a 15 is a 205/75/15, much too small for your trailer.
As for the tires I get them through a tire company called Tire Barn. They have a web site and will deliver to your door as just the tire or tire and wheel mounted and balanced very reasonable.
Chris
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I think cause bias will flat side in a hurry and then have a bounce to them till they warm up and kind of reshape(for lack of a better term). They get a memory if sitting to long without rotating the side that is on the ground, that sounded stupid, you just need to roll them around every so often or set the trailer on jack stands to take the weight off the tires.