Trailer Towing Question

   / Trailer Towing Question #1  

budlite

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Going to be purchasing a truck in the near future, and after that possibly a trailer or two. Is a 1500 grade truck (V-8) adequate to pull a 20 ft camper trailer? How about 8x16 enclosed utility trailer with 2 or 3 motorcycles inside? Or do I have to get a 2500?

Thanks
 
   / Trailer Towing Question #2  
Going to be purchasing a truck in the near future, and after that possibly a trailer or two. Is a 1500 grade truck (V-8) adequate to pull a 20 ft camper trailer? How about 8x16 enclosed utility trailer with 2 or 3 motorcycles inside? Or do I have to get a 2500?

Thanks

it's probably going to come down to a question of how far, how often, and at what speeds? i've had 1/2 tons and 3/4 tons for towing similar sized needs, and my experience has been that it can be done fine with the 1/2 ton, but it generally feels better behind the 3/4 ton. heavier suspension to handle the added tongue weight and bigger axles with more appropriate gear ratios for heavy loads.

assuming you equip the 1/2 ton correctly: trailer brakes and an appropriate hitch, then it can be done fine. if you plan on a lot of towing, such as seeing the country in your retirement years, or hauling the bikes every weekend, it might not be the best choice. for occasional trips, like hauling the camper to the campground and parking it there for the season, then it's probably fine.

today's 1/2 tons have pretty powerful engine choices, but don't let that fool you into thinking they are as good for towing. once you are up to speed, you don't really notice the trailer much. it's when you have to make a sudden turn, avoid an obstacle, or stop fast that i have seen the difference. the heavier duty truck seems to handle those conditions better.

the tradeoff will come when the trailer isn't there. lower fuel economy all the time and a harsher ride. initial cost shouldn't be much different - assuming you can actually compare apples to apples and find identical trim level 1/2 and 3/4 ton trucks, i can't imagine the difference is more than $500-$1000.
 
   / Trailer Towing Question #3  
lostcause said it right, the only thing I can add is distance you plan on towing?
If just to local campgrounds, no issue. But If your going to Sturgis or across country then I'd look at a 3/4 ton. They tow and handle the load so much better. also if towing in hot weather, gas motors heat up real quick climbing a good grade, where diesels shine.Hope this helps.
DevilDog
 
   / Trailer Towing Question #4  
The above response is great. He hit the nail on the head. First thing I tell everyone to do is skip the 3/4 ton. They are a joke to me. You can get a 1 ton SRW for about $600 more than a evenly equipped 3/4 ton. Trust me, I made that mistake and bought a 3/4 ton and 1 year later upgraded to a 1 ton SRW. Also make sure you do your homework. Just because it has a V8 or diesel engine that does not mean squat. It all comes down to GVWR, GCWR, and axle ratio.

Many base line 3/4 ton gas trucks can tow less weight legally than the same brands decked out 1/2 ton with the same engine. With a gas engine also look at where it makes its power. Some make it at a low RPM which is great for a truck while others make it at a high RPM, not so great. In the diesel world all 3 manufactures have good engines. Where they really vary is in load capacity, chassis style, and towing capacity. After that it all comes down to what you like.

Do your homework, as questions, and make wise choices to which company you are going to give your business to. All 3/4 and 1 ton trucks are not on a equal playing field. Most 1/2 tons are now day but that was not true even 3 or so years ago. And the companies that make them are very different in business practices. Just look at who is doing well and growing the last few months.

I personally have 3 trucks currently. 04 F-250 4x4 diesel, 06 F-350 SRW 4x4 diesel, and a 08 Nissian Titan 4x4. To be honest they all ride about the same but the diesels get much better millage no matter towing or around town. The Titan is hands down the best in the mud, snow, and muck.

Chris
 
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If you are going to buy a new truck the new 1500's can pull a lot of weight if you buy the correct one.

Look here at the new Ford 1500. You can get capacities in the 9000 and 11000 lb catogory with the correct one.

2010 Ford F-150 | View Towing Specifications | FordVehicles.com

A 5.4 in anything pulling 10,000+ is going to be miserable. I test drove a 1 ton with the 5.4 and it couldn't get out of it's own way when not towing anything.

In my opinion, 1/2 ton trucks are ok for pulling ATVs, small boats and small campers. Beyond that, get a 3/4 or 1 ton, you will be MUCH happier.
 
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A 5.4 in anything pulling 10,000+ is going to be miserable. I test drove a 1 ton with the 5.4 and it couldn't get out of it's own way when not towing anything.

In my opinion, 1/2 ton trucks are ok for pulling ATVs, small boats and small campers. Beyond that, get a 3/4 or 1 ton, you will be MUCH happier.

While I agree with you for the most part the trucks of the last 3 years are day and night better than what we had in the 90's. We had 3 speed trannys, 250 HP and 300 ft lbs trq at best, crappy drum rear brakes, weaker components, Micky Mouse chassis, ect. Today's 1/2 tons are a world of difference with all making 300 Hp or more, good torque, stronger chassis, 5 and 6 speed trannys, large disc brakes all around, ect. They are more capable than the gas 3/4 tons made just 10 years ago.

Any 3/4 ton or large truck with the base gas engine, like the Ford 5.4L, the GM 6.0L, or the Dodge 5.7L is a pig. I had a 2500 Dodge Hemi 5.7L and while it sound impressive it was not up to the task. Never again will I buy a gas HD truck or a 3/4 ton. Its all diesel and all 1 ton SRW for me.

Chris
 
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One other thing. If you are considering a gas truck hurry up and buy a F-350 with the V-10. Its the only gas offering with any balls still out there. Ford is making a big mistake and canceling it after 2010 and opting to take the same route as Dodge and GM and going with smaller displacement higher revving gassers. Great for race cars but not for trucks that need low end grunt like the V-10 makes. Dodge did away with its V-10 gasser a while back when they went Hemi crazy and GM canceled the 8.1L monster 2 years or so ago now forcing you to have a pig or drop another 8 grand or more for a diesel.

Chris
 
   / Trailer Towing Question #9  
One other thing. If you are considering a gas truck hurry up and buy a F-350 with the V-10. Its the only gas offering with any balls still out there. Ford is making a big mistake and canceling it after 2010 and opting to take the same route as Dodge and GM and going with smaller displacement higher revving gassers. Great for race cars but not for trucks that need low end grunt like the V-10 makes. Dodge did away with its V-10 gasser a while back when they went Hemi crazy and GM canceled the 8.1L monster 2 years or so ago now forcing you to have a pig or drop another 8 grand or more for a diesel.

Chris

That's what I'm talking about. I had a 5.4 in a 250 and it was terrible. I have a F350 w/ V-10 and gets better mileage on the highway and tows great..
 

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   / Trailer Towing Question #10  
Folks,
I don't want to start some big debate... BUT I want to share this....

I recently bought a 2010 Tacoma... it replaced a 1999 durango...
the durango had a 5.2 V-8 and a tow rating of 5000 lbs.

the tacoma has a 4.0 V-6 and a tow rating of 6500 lbs..


the durango struggled with a 3800 lb 23 ft tag along...

the tacoma pulled a 3800 lb miniex PLUS the 20 ft trailer...

If I still had the trailer, I bet the tacoma would pull that thing easily..

I have driven quite a few trucks and SUVs pulling trailers over the years...

and from the 1998 Explorer to the 2010 tacoma with the durango and an F-150 in there... I have to say the newer the better they pull.......


J
 

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