Loader hooks void the warranty?

   / Loader hooks void the warranty? #41  
I would say that grilling in the bucket might void the warranty but best to call the manufacturer. :laughing:

I think I'd wait until the warranty was up before I let them in on that episode.

There was another one here, something to do with washing or maybe boiling crawdads??

Sean
 
   / Loader hooks void the warranty? #43  
I would say that grilling in the bucket might void the warranty but best to call the manufacturer. :laughing:

Only if you forget to line it with foil and fill it with 6" of sand first. :D
 
   / Loader hooks void the warranty? #44  
Degradation.
 
   / Loader hooks void the warranty? #45  
Unfortunately this thread has returned to civility, so I brought in some more gasoline:

Just having a chain hook in line with one of the loader arms does not, in itself, solve the loader's twisting tendencies. By example, if you lift a 1000 lbs in line with, say, the left loader arm, BOTH loader arms will each supply 500 lbs to support it. But the right loader arm, being 3 feet or so from the actual load, is also supplying 1500 ft-lbs of torque that needs to be absorbed by the loader frame. That's why they probably design loaders with the cross member near the ends of the arms. Much of that torque from the asymetric load is distributed between the arms thru that cross member and then on to the other end of the loader. People who find comfort in putting a hook at the end of an arm have been blessed with a cross member strong enough to take it. (remember that Kiota thread where Kiota ran the hoses inside the cross member? That hole in the cross member was probably a stess riser and caused a lot of cross member failure.)

But they are right about not wanting an unbalance load outside of either arm. In that case, you have BOTH arms generating torque on the loader frame- one more than the other but both, nonetheless.

John
 
   / Loader hooks void the warranty? #46  
JMC-

If I load a keg on the left side, and 3 cases of bar bottles on the right- with evenly distributed ice, what would the rate of consumption from each product have to be- to avoid the torque overload on one FEL arm? :confused2:

Sorry- couldn't resist
 
   / Loader hooks void the warranty? #47  
JMC-

If I load a keg on the left side, and 3 cases of bar bottles on the right- with evenly distributed ice, what would the rate of consumption from each product have to be- to avoid the torque overload on one FEL arm? :confused2:

Sorry- couldn't resist


LMAO:laughing::D:thumbsup::licking::confused2:
 
   / Loader hooks void the warranty? #48  
JMC-

If I load a keg on the left side, and 3 cases of bar bottles on the right- with evenly distributed ice, what would the rate of consumption from each product have to be- to avoid the torque overload on one FEL arm? :confused2:

Sorry- couldn't resist

The RATE of consumption doesn't matter. Safety would amount to a swig of beer, a swig of liquor, a swig of beer, a swig of liquor.... Now, what was it you couldn't resist?

BTW, CWB, I enjoyed your post #42. The second half of it should be a sticky post for every thread.

John
 
   / Loader hooks void the warranty? #49  
One thing about a nice hot discussion like this one, it makes you really think about the topic.

I'm not about to change the setup I already have for hooks, but I may be a little more gentle about digging out rocks with the corner of the bucket. When the loader lifts the opposite back wheel clear of the ground, there has to be a dirty load of torque on that loader frame. Not saying I've had that happen, but I've seen it before.

In the old days of pipe loaders and such, you'd be pretty much guaranteed to put a twist in 'er with that antic.

Sean
 
   / Loader hooks void the warranty? #50  
I don't recall who posted it, but the right answer is that if the modification caused the failure, it can impact warranty coverage. It would take extensive modification to void the entire loader warranty.

Here is how the warranty process works:

1) Owner brings the vehicle in to the dealer saying that he has a leaking cylinder.
2) Dealer looks over the machine for signs of improper use that could have contributed to or caused the problem.
a) If the dealer does not see any, he proceeds with the repair/claim if the dollar amount of the repair is below the amount needed for pre-authorization.
b) If the dealer DOES see signs of improper use or the amount of the repair is over the amount needed for pre-authorization:
1) The dealer will work up an estimate
2) The dealer then calls in to the mfg and explains the situation and the quote amount.
3) The mfg then decides if repairs can proceed or will instruct the dealer what to look for or whatever if they want to check something else. Then THEY decided what will be covered, not the dealer.

The dealer does not have the authority to void the warranty, nor do they have the authority to determine what is or is not covered. They are simply an agent, and the warranty is an agreement between the mfg and the buyer. The dealer is simply there to perform repairs on the mfg behalf.
 

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