Jacobsen HR-15 questions

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dcplambeck

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I just bought a HR 15 hydro, it has a stripped spline on one of the cutter deck motors as well as the female side on the pulley. The hydro motor works, can I just buy a new spline and rebuild the motor? Does anyone have a used hydro motor they would like to sell? The motor I have is a Ultra (Jacobsen part #163716). Jacobsen wants too much for new pump so I'd like to go with a used or rebuild mine. The new pulley with female spline is $185 from Jacobsen, anyone have one? Also looking for any manual about this HR 15, Ive been searching but cant find much info on the net. This unit is in good condition, runs great, not much rust and operates fine. The bad parts are not a single gauge works and the one stripped spline. Im just starting to go through this thing, filters,oil, bearings, belts the usual stuff. If anyone knows much about these units Id love to talk to you and pick your brain.

Any help would be much appreciated

Dave 414 708 8839
 
   / Jacobsen HR-15 questions #2  
I just bought a HR 15 hydro, it has a stripped spline on one of the cutter deck motors as well as the female side on the pulley. The hydro motor works, can I just buy a new spline and rebuild the motor? Does anyone have a used hydro motor they would like to sell? The motor I have is a Ultra (Jacobsen part #163716). Jacobsen wants too much for new pump so I'd like to go with a used or rebuild mine. The new pulley with female spline is $185 from Jacobsen, anyone have one? Also looking for any manual about this HR 15, Ive been searching but cant find much info on the net. This unit is in good condition, runs great, not much rust and operates fine. The bad parts are not a single gauge works and the one stripped spline. I'm just starting to go through this thing, filters,oil, bearings, belts the usual stuff. If anyone knows much about these units Id love to talk to you and pick your brain.

Any help would be much appreciated

Dave 414 708 8839

Dave,

Jake problems? First the goodish news. The splined drive pulley, 185 bucks is a good price for that pulley. What you need to do now is also take the bearing assembly off the deck, pop off the big snap ring and press out the bearings. Check the (I call it the cup) for wear. The least bit, get a new one. As for the bearings, throw the old ones away and replace. What happened was you had a bit of bearing slop and it took the splines off the drive shaft. There is NO margin on that for slop.

Now for the bad news. You have to buy a new motor. If you can find a hydraulic shop that can repair the motor then you're in a better place than I am. Haldex made the motors to Genie Lift specs and Jacobsen supposedly bought the rights from Genie to use the motor. As it is, the motor is proprietary and you can't as much as get a seal kit for the motors. The drive shaft is nitrided steel and it can't be hardly touched with a grinder much less welded up.

I just had the same thing happen. Bearing slop, took all the splines out of the pulley and off the shaft. I waited 3 weeks for a motor from a warehouse in Italy and it was shipped via Australia. Got the pulley together, dropped in the motor and within 30 seconds the shaft broke off the new motor. Obviously a forging error as the shaft is crystallized. Jacobsen won't give a warranty because they can't send the motor back to anyone. So now I'm waiting for another motor at 500+ dollars. :mad: But when the mowers work, you can mow 80 acres in an afternoon.

As for the gauges, go thru the entire mower and replace the wiring and run it in split loom. You'll eventually thank me. The senders may be bad also. Anything on the mower that's subject such as bushings, hydraulic cylinders, RUBBER COUPLER BETWEEN CRANKSHAFT AND FRONT HYDRAULIC PUMP, whatever, get now as things are getting to be no longer available and it gets worse every year. I'm soon going to buy a junker to mine parts from.

Your's hydrostatic or a 4 speed?

I can copy a tractor manual, electrical schematic and a tractor & mower deck parts book for you.

Brian in WI 920-five38-3one4nine
 
   / Jacobsen HR-15 questions #3  
I have a HR-15 hydro do you have a list of part #'s for filters?
What is the recommended hours to change the hydro oil?
Source for deck belts or a gates part # my decks are the 72" 3 blade all 3 blades are same length.

Thanks
Dave
 
   / Jacobsen HR-15 questions #4  
I have a HR-15 hydro do you have a list of part #'s for filters?
What is the recommended hours to change the hydro oil?
Source for deck belts or a gates part # my decks are the 72" 3 blade all 3 blades are same length.

Thanks
Dave

Let me get back to you on the filters. I get the engine oil filters thru my JD dealer and now I can't remember if I get the main hydraulic filter there also. :ashamed:

The cartridge fuel filters, you can get at pretty much any implement dealer. My Gehl skidloader just happens to run the same thing so I get them thru the Case/IH dealer. Word of caution, its a pain in the *** to bleed the injector pump after a filter change.

The hydraulic oil, I'd change it if you don't know how many hours are on it. I change my filter every 500 hours and the oil every-other filter change. Just use a decent universal oil in place of the hydraulic/transmission oil recommended. I've also had straight 30 weight engine oil recommended to me.

The drive belts for the decks, I've always just gotten them thru Jacobsen. Jacobsen has darn good quality belts, I hate Gates belts with a passion and no matter where you get them, its not a cheap belt. I mow 40+ acres weekly and ate 1 belt in the past 5 years.

As for blades, Jacobsen currently gets $50.15/blade. I get mine here: Jacobsen Blades
16 bucks each with shipping. And they have the Jacobsen part number stamped on them. Go figure.

B.
 
   / Jacobsen HR-15 questions #5  
I have a HR-15 hydro do you have a list of part #'s for filters?

Engine oil - Fleetgard LF701 as sourced thru John Deere. Lots of filters out there for Perkins engines.
Hydraulic filter - I see mine is a generic filter sourced thru my Jacobsen dealer. I could probably get one cheaper there than thru JD.
 
   / Jacobsen HR-15 questions #6  
My friend has three from his old HR now mud buggy. Email me with your contact info and I will see what I can do if you still need them. I the era of these machines most Jac equipment went to a dyed 30 wt engine old on the premise it was cheap enough per gallon that it would get changed when it was suppose to instead of thirty dollar a gallon hyd old never getting changed. The gauges can be sourced from most any parts dealer (marine). Just get matching senders. I replaced the front rubber coupler from Motion Industries, Bearing house, 200.00 Vs 550 from Jac. The info Buzzmeister is giving you is very good and more current than me. I sold HR15's in Illinois in the 80's and 90's. They are a great BIG mower for large open acreage. Turfspray@aol.com
 
   / Jacobsen HR-15 questions #7  
I just bought a HR 15 hydro, it has a stripped spline on one of the cutter deck motors as well as the female side on the pulley. The hydro motor works, can I just buy a new spline and rebuild the motor? Does anyone have a used hydro motor they would like to sell? The motor I have is a Ultra (Jacobsen part #163716). Jacobsen wants too much for new pump so I'd like to go with a used or rebuild mine. The new pulley with female spline is $185 from Jacobsen, anyone have one? Also looking for any manual about this HR 15, Ive been searching but cant find much info on the net. This unit is in good condition, runs great, not much rust and operates fine. The bad parts are not a single gauge works and the one stripped spline. Im just starting to go through this thing, filters,oil, bearings, belts the usual stuff. If anyone knows much about these units Id love to talk to you and pick your brain.

Any help would be much appreciated

Dave 414 708 8839

As per the stripped shafts on the motors, I just happen to mention this to an area bearing shop and they claim that they have a place to send in the drive motors that will disassemble and replicate the shaft. I'll have to check on this as the shaft and the internal rotating mass of the motor is all one piece. Might not be cheaper in the end but if someplace can replicate the internals/drive shafts of these motors, it may be worth it.
 
   / Jacobsen HR-15 questions #8  
Anyone know of a link to a parts breakdown with part #'s for the HR-15?
 
   / Jacobsen HR-15 questions #9  
You can get HR-15 blades alot cheaper from Rotary corp or Power Products in Glennville GA 912-654-3994 speak to Roy Godbee you can get'em for about 14.00 per blade and their made in the USA.
 
   / Jacobsen HR-15 questions #10  
You can get a parts lint on Jac's website. Just go in with the model #.
 

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