Rolled my 3240, and it ran till it blew ??

[ritschner]

That is one of the disadvantages of a closed crankcase system. In a rollover the intake can start ingesting oil through the crankcase vent and rub away. I guess you could revert back to an open breather style setup, but you risk the wrath of the pollution police. Another more common cause of diesel runaway is blown seals on the turbocharger compressor side of turbo diesels. This will also draw oil into the engine intake and is the reason a lot of construction equipment has an air shutoff.

 

[Wacky]

Very sorry about your loss, Thank your lucky stars you were unscathed. The machine can be repaired. If you can do the work yourself, great, if not, good luck. Just remember it could always be worse.

 

[RadarTech]

tough one there..
Glad your ok...

J

 

[RadarTech]

Oh I forgot to add-- let us know what happens when you check the motor out...

J

 

[dodge man]

Someone much wiser than me said "if money can fix your problems, than you don't have problems". That seems to be the case here, good luck and glad you weren't hurt.

 

[montelatici]

The combination of running wide open and the tailpipe awash in oil makes that easier said than done...

You're probably just going to end up taking a deep-fried spud to the groin.

Actually, I had both the decompression cable and the fuel cut-off cable rusted shut (one at a time) for a while on my B5200 and a wet rag in the exhaust was how I stopped the engine for at least a week until I received the two cables. Of course it was at idle.

 

[Rob-D]

Usually you get run away on an old engine that sucks oil through the rings. What may have happened in your case was the tractor turned over and oil sat on the underside of the pistons. As the piston moved downward on the intake stroke it sucked the oil through the rings and this fueled the engine.

If I missed something I apologize but why didn't your seat switch shut the tractor off immediately before this could happen. Were you strapped in tightly? Perhaps this did it.

How did you flip it, were you on a steep incline or did you hit a ditch with a wheel?

Sorry for your trouble, I'd say the engine has been compromised.

Rob

 

[SteveCornell]

Well it appears I'm very lucky in more ways than one......

Went out this morning and replaced all the fuses I pulled last night, I added about 3 quarts of oil, this got it back up in the operating range, I was thinking about pulling the injectors as some had suggested but after awhile I decided to see if it would turn over, I hit the starter and it fired up just like always..... no smoke, no unusual noises..... I went to town and picked up some more Rotella Syn. and came home and changed the oil and filter, degreased the front of the tractor where all the oil blew out and power washed it, there was a small amount of oil on both the inner and outer air filters so I'll replace them.

It appears the engine is OK, the only explanation to this is indeed it had to be running on it's own oil and once the oil got low enough that it quit running into the cylinders (or out the vent line)the tractor quit, there was still a couple quarts of oil scattered throughout the engine so I guess this protected it.

I'm guessing the crankcase vent line is run into the intake air and the oil came through the vent line into the intake (the reason I have oil on my air filters) and was sucked into the engine that way, I don't think it blew past the rings, it had to come through the crankcase vent into the air intake, I may look at rerouting this as well.

I don't think a fire extinguisher is the answer to a runaway engine, the only real solution to prevent this from happening is an emergency air kill which I will be adding as soon as I locate one.

This may never happen again (I hope not) but the next time it does I will have a switch or handle to shut the air off.

Thanks for everyones comments and suggestions, I'll post back and start another topic when I locate an air kill.

Steve

 

[RadarTech]

Well it appears I'm a very lucky in more ways than one......

Went out this morning and replaced all the fuses I pulled last night, I added about 3 quarts of oil, this got it back up in the operating range, I was thinking about pulling the injectors as some had suggested but after awhile I decided to see if it would turn over, I hit the starter and it fired up just like always..... no smoke, no unusual noises..... I went to town and picked up some more Rotella Syn. and came home and changed the oil and filter, degreased the front of the tractor where all the oil blew out and power washed it, there was a small amount of oil on both the inner and outer air filters so I'll replace them.

It appears the engine is OK, the only explanation to this is indeed it had to be running on it's own oil and once the oil got low enough that it quit running into the cylinders (or out the vent line)the tractor quit, there was still a couple quarts of oil scattered throughout the engine so I guess this protected it.

I'm guessing the crankcase vent line is run into the intake air and the oil came through the vent line into the intake (the reason I have oil on my air filters) and was sucked into the engine that way, I don't think it blew past the rings, it had to come through the crankcase vent into the air intake, I may look at rerouting this as well.

I don't think a fire extinguisher is the answer to a runaway engine, the only real solution to prevent this from happening is an emergency air kill which I will be adding as soon as I locate one.

This may never happen again (I hope not) but the next time it does I will have a switch or handle to shut the air off.

Thanks for everyones comments and suggestions, I'll post back and start another topic when I locate an air kill.

Steve

AWESOME!!!

Congrats Steve!

J

 

[TripleR]

Good to hear it worked out OK.