Rolled my Tractor and it blew up ???

   / Rolled my Tractor and it blew up ??? #71  
Hey Steve,
I heard about your accident. I'm actually an insurance agent so maybe I can shed some light on how your home owners policy "may pay" something. If you have standard home owners coverage, most policies cover mowers and tractors as long as they are used to "maintain" the property. The coverage would fall under your household personal property. If you have a small farm ranch policy or farm policy, it would typically have to be scheduled or you would have to have blanket machinery coverage. Call your agent and have him/her call the claim in. Even if it is not paid out, they should do there best to see if it's covered in any way. Good luck and let me know if you have questions.
 
   / Rolled my Tractor and it blew up ??? #72  
My 2003 Jinma 28HP tractor has a Compression Release. I have only used it a few times. Mainly in the very cold I will activate it and crank till I see oil pressure then go though my normal start procedure.

Chris
 
   / Rolled my Tractor and it blew up ??? #73  
Call your agent and have him/her call the claim in. Even if it is not paid out, they should do there best to see if it's covered in any way.

BAD BAD idea. Then it WILL show up as a claim, even if they do not pay out. Then, it will come back to haunt you. Been there, done that. NEVER tell your insurance company or agent about anything they do not ask you about or you are 100% for sure making a claim. They WILL use that information against you. They represent the insurance company, NOT you.
 
   / Rolled my Tractor and it blew up ??? #74  
dfkrug said:
I think you found the cause. I agree with HOOKED, the oil being burned
would not have been going past the rings. Crankcase venting is now
something to think about in a rollover.

In the talk of compression release, whose tractor has that? The only
ones mentioned that I recall were the Kamas. The pull levers on the
Kiotis were not CR levers; they were just manual overrides to the fuel
cutoff solenoid. They would have done nothing to help here.

My kubota b6000 had the compression release I wish my kioti had it

I do use my fuel shut off to spin the motor to pump oil the decrempression would make that process easier

Joel

Great posts in this thread
 
   / Rolled my Tractor and it blew up ??? #75  
B6100....that's one of the earliest Bs, imported in the mid-to-late
70s, I believe. I did not know any of them had that, and why.

I imagine the Yanmar models that had CR were also from the 70s?

Gray Market 2402D Yanmars from the early 80's have them.
 
   / Rolled my Tractor and it blew up ??? #76  
I did not know any of them had that, and why.

I imagine the Yanmar models that had CR were also from the 70s?

at least in 79 anyway :) as for why? easy to spin engine over before letting it labor with compression. ie.. oil pump.. etc..

soundguy
 
   / Rolled my Tractor and it blew up ??? #77  
Gray Market 2402D Yanmars from the early 80's have them.

My F16D (which I think is an 80s model) has a compression release. I love it.

It usually gives you a chance to start the tractor if the battery is low or almost dead. That feature alone has saved my behind a couple of times.

My old Belarus also had it, and it NEEDED it. It took to 1000 amp batteries with a good charge to turn it over on a warm day; when it was cold, I had to use the preheater, compression release, and usually jumper cables from another vehicle to get it going.

Oddly enought, I still have the Yanmar and don't have the Belarus!
 
   / Rolled my Tractor and it blew up ??? #78  
And I'm assuming the compression realease could also be used as an emergency kill. I think that my Belarus manual mentioned that you could use it that way, but recommended it only for an emergency, not as normal operating procedure.
 
   / Rolled my Tractor and it blew up ??? #79  
And I'm assuming the compression realease could also be used as an emergency kill. I think that my Belarus manual mentioned that you could use it that way, but recommended it only for an emergency, not as normal operating procedure.

Actually some diesels use it as a routine shut off method. My Yanmar 3GM marine engine was shut off via decompression. Pulling on a cable opened the valves and shut off the engine. The engine was also set up for manual crank starting by opening all three decompression valves, cranking the engine and then closing them one by one. Only had to do it once and the engine was warm at the time but it did work.
 
   / Rolled my Tractor and it blew up ??? #80  
The fact that the tractor ran well in the first place, being only a few years old, and ran well after righting it and cleaning it up probably means that it wasn't oil slipping past the seals. Best bet is the crankcase vent as I've seen a lot of vents on diesel and gas engines venting into the air intake as a means of pollution control - they burn the vaporized hydrocarbons from the crank case.

Inverted, the oil would just keep pouring in.

Halon or CO2 would be the preferred extinguishers. The problem with CO2 is that the intense could could cause cracking if it hits a hot engine block; halon doesn't have that problem. Dry chem works, but can make a god awful mess of your engine; and I'm not sure about corrosiveness of the powder. I would not use a water extinguisher or hose due to the incompressiblity of water - it would be like tossing a ball bearing into the combustion chamber.

If you had some kind of a manual choke value on the air intake, that might also work.
 

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