Backhoe bent rops

   / bent rops #111  
Had a neighbor borrow my old L 185 DT years ago. He returned it and handed me the muffler with the broken exhaust elbow. Never offered any compensation. It was a cheap lesson. Never never again.
 
   / bent rops #112  
Twinsticks...Just my opinion from experience..My sister has passed but I never liked my BIL but forced myself to tolerate him and I am now glad I did.........peace in the family is worth much more than $500 ..take the hit and save the relationship with your sister and that will pay great dividends ...just my opinion mind you.
 
   / bent rops #113  
I would take him to court and live with whatever the judge decides. I'm no lawyer, but I think you have a reasonable expectation to not expect anything more than normal wear and tear even without a contract. Think of it this way: if he drove it into a lake and left it there he would be liable for damages. I think it is quite clear that he is liable in this case as well. Maybe you can get some engineering documents that state what the failure load would be on the rops to make it clear to the judge that what happened to it was far from a normal event.
 
   / bent rops #114  
OMG give it a rest. These are just things that can be replaced, your sister can't, get it fixed if you think you need to and get on with life.:)
 
   / bent rops #116  
OMG give it a rest. These are just things that can be replaced, your sister can't, get it fixed if you think you need to and get on with life.:)

Feel free to not read this thread if it is that troubling for you...
 
   / bent rops #117  
I would take him to court and live with whatever the judge decides. I'm no lawyer, but I think you have a reasonable expectation to not expect anything more than normal wear and tear even without a contract. Think of it this way: if he drove it into a lake and left it there he would be liable for damages. I think it is quite clear that he is liable in this case as well. Maybe you can get some engineering documents that state what the failure load would be on the rops to make it clear to the judge that what happened to it was far from a normal event.

Sure you're not a lawyer?
Suppose he did go to court and the unimaginable happened: BIL wins.
That would make for some great conversation down at the grange.

-jim
 
   / bent rops #118  
I once loaned a chain saw to a co-worker. It is a pretty good saw, but when I tried to start it one time with your foot in the handle, sitting on the ground, I broke the bottom of the handle. Its not where it bothers you really when using it so I just crazy glued it on and didn't worry about it. When the co-worker brought it back it was broken, and they went to the local Stihl dealer, but fixing it would have cost over a $100 so they didn't get it fixed. When they retruned it to me they offered to pay to get it fixed, but I said don't worry about it, it was already broken.

My point is, there are people I will lend tools to, or even my tractor. These are the kind of people you can trust your life with and I know they will fix or offer to fix anything that gets broken. I hate to see people lose faith in human nature over a incident like this.
 
   / bent rops #119  
I have been reading the comments, and while I didn't go back and re-read all of them, I still have a question in my mind.

Did the OP encourage his sisters boy friend to take his tractor for a job? Puts a slightly different light on things if something like this took place, versus the boy friend asking to borrow the tractor. In other words, the loan may have been encouraged, which doesn't mean the borrower has less responsibility for seeing to it that the ROPS is fixed.
 

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