For the college folks

[Rob-D]

The best I have heard is
"Common Sense is not that common" (I think Will Rodgers)
And
Go to college for a career, not a hobby. (Advice a friend said his father gave him).

The man who wrote the book about different intelligences is Howard Gardner.

A very interesting book to read is
Last Child in the Woods by richard louv

I think that the way we judge teachers is pretty much askew of any other profession. Think about it, we judge them on how other peoples kids act and learn. What if in your profession you were not judge on how you worked but how your neighbors kids acted or did on the state tests.

Everyone has the same access to education in this country, some people chose to learn, some choose to skate on through, some drop out. I went to a state university because I did the math. 146 credits for undergrad at $35 a credit or $300 a credit at a privet college. I can say that for most undergrad degrees a state school is the better choice $$ wise. Spend you money for the grad/phd's but when its undergrad with a lot of credits go with the lower cost. I took classes at community colleges to transfer in the summer to cut my costs and took "Klep" tests where you can study on your own, take a test and get credit for a class(we were only allowed to Klep out of 2 classes but that was 6 credits for free).

Yes, right, Howard Gardner, thanks for reminding me. I'm not sure I agree with all his intelligences and some schools have gone overboard attempting to teach through different intelligences. The thing I like about it is that someone is looking at learning from a different perspective. It really needs to be revamped. This SAT, etc. testing is getting out of hand also we are making headway in the mind and how we learn now.
Speaking of great books there's one by a guy named James Zull called "The Art of Changing the Brain" that's excellent. One of my big gripes about testing is time. I don't like it and Zull shows where the brain needs time to process and formulate in depth solutions to problems.

Another book is ""The Neuroscience of Adult Learning" if your interested. I'll look at the book you cited.

I agree about state schools ( I went to one too and got a very good education).

One thing it's CLEP tests: College Level Entry Program or something like that if I remember, at least that's what they call them in NY.

Rob

 

[buckeyefarmer]

A very interesting book to read is
Last Child in the Woods by richard louv

This book has some good points.

 

[Egon]

Would you hire someone to build a bridge who wasn't a civil engineer with credentials?

I'm wondering what College and what type of Degree the fellow who designed this bridge had??

 

[Chuck52]

I'm wondering what College and what type of Degree the fellow who designed this bridge had??

That would be the school of Hard Knocks, and his reward for a failed bridge would probably have been loss of his head.

Chuck

 

[Egon]

the school of Hard Knocks

Surely this school would have had a curriculum the designated force vectors.

And them Old Roman fellows sure seemed to build a lot of bridges and aqueducts that flowed water. Wondering how they managed to get Stadion of them that flowed water.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

I'm wondering what College and what type of Degree the fellow who designed this bridge had??

Horace Jones was the architect. He was responsible for a lot of now famous buildings in london. At the time the bridge was built he was city Architect. There was a competition for the bridge design and over 50 designs was entered. The city architect won. Civil Engineer was John Wolfe-Barry who when to Kings College, London, est 1829. Bridge took 8 yrs to build, finished in 1894.
You can tour the walkways, really interesting.

 

[Egon]

That's interesting information Buckeye.:thumbsup:

 

[buckeyefarmer]

That Google Dude is really smart. :laughing:

The pic is one I took of it. I took a tour of it a few yrs ago. The two walkways were for people to walk across while the bridge was open, at the time this was the only bridge in the area, only way across.

 

[forgeblast]

I think a lot of people confuse intelligent and smart.
Intelligent is the ability to learn,
Smart is able to use what you learned.
Probably why there are many intelligent people but so few "smart".

 

[Rob-D]

I think a lot of people confuse intelligent and smart.
Intelligent is the ability to learn,
Smart is able to use what you learned.
Probably why there are many intelligent people but so few "smart".

I think it's just semantics. Intelligence is the ability to constructively resolve your problems. That encompasses learning with application.

Someone who can do Laplace Transforms but constantly trips over their feet because they can't tie their shoes properly isn't intelligent/smart or whatever.

Take someone like Bobby Fisher, a brilliant chess master but his life was a mess. Was he intelligent? Not in my view. Look at savants, they can do mathematical gymnastics but can barely feed themselves.

Rob