Off Road Diesel in Farm Truck.

   / Off Road Diesel in Farm Truck. #11  
Remove the dye! I discovered...by accident that sunlight makes the dye dissappear. I had a 1 gallon bottle of dyed diesel mixed with Malathion (for the bug fogger) and it was left in the sun for a few days. The dye was gone. The bottle in the garage all summer mixed with the Malathion still is red in colour.

Maybe make a tank and a circulating pump with a clear hose and constantly circulate it.
 
   / Off Road Diesel in Farm Truck. #12  
Dargo that makes sense. you could use dye fuel to put up hay on a big farm and use it all off road esp out in the midwest. But im like you you still have a gallon or 2 in there that will mix with the new tank. To me not worth the risk. but i dont have a deisel pickup, yet.
 
   / Off Road Diesel in Farm Truck. #13  
I'm positively no expert, but a good friend who is big time, and I mean BIG time, into horse shows told me what you said is definitely not the case. Apparently the DOT cops stake out horse shows quite often since they catch a relatively high percentage of pickups running dyed diesel from their farms. If the giant Q-tip comes out clean, you're good to go. He told me that some over zealous DOT cops tried the fuel filter trick and got shot down big time in court.

There is nothing illegal whatsoever in running dyed diesel in a truck while it's operating on your property or farm. The tax is a "road tax". If it's not being used on a road, no tax need be paid. The court ruled that there was no possible way for the DOT cops to even remotely suggest that the truck was using dyed fuel on any road if the tank only contained non-dyed, taxed, fuel. These horse guys who travel quite a bit all know this he told me.

My question would be how do you know there is no more tinge of red in your tank? That's where I'd get nailed if I ever did that. Even if you run your truck until the gauge says it's empty and then run a couple more tanks of non-dyed fuel in it, how do you know it won't have some red tinge to it? That is where I think a real debate could occur.

It is my understanding that if you want the tax back for off road use then you can keep track of your off road use and get the tax back but still are not supposed to run off road fuel unless the truck is used exclusively off road.
 
   / Off Road Diesel in Farm Truck.
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It is my understanding that if you want the tax back for off road use then you can keep track of your off road use and get the tax back but still are not supposed to run off road fuel unless the truck is used exclusively off road.

Excatly ...
 
   / Off Road Diesel in Farm Truck. #15  
My question would be how do you know there is no more tinge of red in your tank? That's where I'd get nailed if I ever did that. Even if you run your truck until the gauge says it's empty and then run a couple more tanks of non-dyed fuel in it, how do you know it won't have some red tinge to it? That is where I think a real debate could occur.

Do you think receipts for recent over-the-road diesel purchases would work as evidence for your case?
 
   / Off Road Diesel in Farm Truck. #16  
I am fairly naive on the subject. What kind of money are we talking here? Is the money saved worth all this worry and risk?
 
   / Off Road Diesel in Farm Truck. #17  
Around here they pull the plates off the truck or car, fine is $10k last I knew and you have to account for fuel receipts for all fuel put in the vehicle. They pull the previous years registation with the milage and you have to pay if you don't have receipts. Very expensive.

I know a lot of guys who do it and haven't been caught, but to me it's no different than owning one set of plates for several vehicles or fake inspection stickers. Eventually you will get caught.
 
   / Off Road Diesel in Farm Truck. #18  
Around here they pull the plates off the truck or car, fine is $10k last I knew and you have to account for fuel receipts for all fuel put in the vehicle. They pull the previous years registation with the milage and you have to pay if you don't have receipts. Very expensive.

I know a lot of guys who do it and haven't been caught, but to me it's no different than owning one set of plates for several vehicles or fake inspection stickers. Eventually you will get caught.

Wow, it's definitely not worth the risk.
 
   / Off Road Diesel in Farm Truck. #19  
I am fairly naive on the subject. What kind of money are we talking here? Is the money saved worth all this worry and risk?

At last check in PA on road diesel is $3.15. Off road was around $2.30.

I watched a guy fill a DMAX on of the off-road pump...Couldn't believe it. There is a decent short term savings. But if you get caught, God help you.

The govt does roam farm auctions etc around here and they get a few each time from what I've heard.

The off-road pump is supposed to have a 3-4 foot hose on the pump which would make filling a truck almost impossible. Exemptions are given where farmers drive the tractors to the station which is what we have around here.
 

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