PT422 Engine shaking / sputtering

   / PT422 Engine shaking / sputtering
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#31  
Remove the spark plugs and put something over the holes so nothing drops in.
With the spark plugs removed, you should be able to turn the engine over by hand.
Watch the action of the valves and see if they are all moving after two complete rotations of the engine. You need at least two rotations. Every valve should have opened and closed after two full rotations of the crank shaft.
MR,

"By hand" you mean turning the flywheel? Thanks!
 
   / PT422 Engine shaking / sputtering #32  
Yes. Sometimes you can turn the flywheel or a pulley of a belt driven implement. However, with PTs, there are hydraulic pumps attached directly. I do not know your engine configuration so I can't tell you how to turn it. You are on the right track, though. :thumbsup:
 
   / PT422 Engine shaking / sputtering
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#33  
Okay so I adjusted the rocker arms according to the service manual. I push on the spring and the valves move and return to a rest in the closed position when at TDC. I put the cover back on and tried the compression test... still nothing. Anyone have an idea what could cause one cylinder (with working valves) to have zero compression while the other seems fine? The needle on the compression gauge doesn't even budge on the bad side. The only thing I can think of is a broken connecting rod. Does that make sense?

Taking it to a service shop is going to be a challenge without the engine running. I can probably get it up on the trailer using my ATV winch, but getting it off and around the repair shop will be tough. I'll feel like I'm at their mercy if I pull the trigger and take it in.

I really appreciate everyone's input. Thanks again.
 
   / PT422 Engine shaking / sputtering #34  
I agree. Not only will you most likely be able to see what's wrong, if you decide to take it to a shop, you will know what's wrong before you take it so they cannot tell you it is your planetary headlight pump and charge you for work not needed.


Moss I was curious and looked for my planetary pump for an hour or 2. I began to think you were just fooling around but then I found it next to the Hydrasulator.
 
   / PT422 Engine shaking / sputtering #35  
KMA,

I suspect that you may have a piece of carbon holding that exhaust valve open. That could explain both the extra clearance and the total lack of compression. If that is the case, your current adjustment will be too tight when the carbon is gone. A broken connecting rod would most likely be sticking out the side of the engine.

If I'm right, the trick is figuring out how to remove that carbon. Sometimes a slow trickle of water or ATF through the carb while the engine is running will do the trick.
 
   / PT422 Engine shaking / sputtering
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#36  
I suspect that you may have a piece of carbon holding that exhaust valve open. That could explain both the extra clearance and the total lack of compression. If that is the case, your current adjustment will be too tight when the carbon is gone. A broken connecting rod would most likely be sticking out the side of the engine.
Yeah, that could explain it. I'm thinking about taking off the cylinder head to get a better look at things. Thanks!

On a side note: has anyone pulled the engine out of a PT422? I'm thinking about taking it out to work on it in my garage if I need to do more tear down. Plus, I figured I could take it to a repair shop that way. Sound like a bad idea?
 
   / PT422 Engine shaking / sputtering #37  
Okay so I adjusted the rocker arms according to the service manual. I push on the spring and the valves move and return to a rest in the closed position when at TDC. I put the cover back on and tried the compression test... still nothing. Anyone have an idea what could cause one cylinder (with working valves) to have zero compression while the other seems fine? The needle on the compression gauge doesn't even budge on the bad side. The only thing I can think of is a broken connecting rod. Does that make sense?

Taking it to a service shop is going to be a challenge without the engine running. I can probably get it up on the trailer using my ATV winch, but getting it off and around the repair shop will be tough. I'll feel like I'm at their mercy if I pull the trigger and take it in.

I really appreciate everyone's input. Thanks again.
It could be a broken connecting rod or even a hole in the piston. You don't have a compression release on that engine, do you? :confused:
 
   / PT422 Engine shaking / sputtering #39  
   / PT422 Engine shaking / sputtering #40  
KMA, do a leak down test on the cylinder. (do an internet search on leak down test). This will help narrow down your problem.
 

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