Considering a 4200

[avc8130]

I am looking for a tractor. I just bought a ~12 acre slice of land. The land is partially wooded and has some decent slopes.

Tractor Uses:
1. Clear snow from ~1/4 mile paved drive.
2. Brush hog ~3-4 acres to keep woods at bay.
3. General loader work.
4. Back hoe, not sure why, but I feel the NEED to own this.
5. Re-grade a few areas so I can mow with my ZTR (box blade).
6. Maintain pasture for goats.
7. Build a patio (grade/move materials/etc).

I found a 2001 4200 for sale locally. It has a loader and a backhoe on it. ~1200 hours. Hysdrostatic trans. Industrial tires. They are asking ~13k.

Is this the "right" tractor for me? What should I look for if I go check it out?
ac

 

[rekees4300]

Sounds like a 4200 is about the right size for what you want to do assuming it's 4WD. I'd avoid 2WD. FELs are $3-$4K new and backhoes are around $6K so $13K seems reasonable. Check the general condition/appearance of the tractor. It could be an excellent tractor or a pile of junk depending on how it's been treated by it's previous owner. Start it up and take it for a test drive, check for oil leaks under the tractor, hydraulic leaks, PTO, and if the FEL/backhoe operate properly.

 

[avc8130]

It is 4WD. I don't think I would even consider a 2WD.
ac

 

[crazywolf]

Sounds like a steal. I literally just got off the phone buying a 4200 minus the backhoe. It's in really good condition 607 hours and I paid 11k before the .gov gets a piece. The dealer is delivering it and filling the tires for free for me.

I have a little more land 26ac and similar uses to you and felt the tractor would work well for me. It's my first so take my opinion for what you paid for it. :laughing: I was looking at the smaller ones and felt this would fit fine and preferred the larger frame to say a 2320. Definitely check it out because that really does sound like a great deal considering the backhoe.

 

[avc8130]

This might be a stupid question, but I just got off the phone with the seller and I asked if the 3-point hitch arms came with the tractor. He said he wasn't sure because as long as he has had it the backhoe was on. Could the arms be there, or do they have to be removed to install the frame mounted backhoe?
ac

 

[kennyd]

This might be a stupid question, but I just got off the phone with the seller and I asked if the 3-point hitch arms came with the tractor. He said he wasn't sure because as long as he has had it the backhoe was on. Could the arms be there, or do they have to be removed to install the frame mounted backhoe?
ac

99.9% sure the lower arms as well as the top-link are removed when the backhoe is mounted. Other than that, it does sound like a good deal.

What loader is on it-the 420 or 430?
The BH should be a #47 I think...

 

[avc8130]

Loader is 420, Backhoe is 47. Are those good?

How much will the 3-point setup set me back?

ac

 

[rekees4300]

Loader is 420, Backhoe is 47. Are those good?

How much will the 3-point setup set me back?

ac

The 420 & 47 aren't heavy duty but they are adequate for your requirements. The seller should provide the 3-point setup since that's pretty much standard equipment that should come with all tractors. If he doesn't have the top-link and arms, I wouldn't buy the tractor or I would find out from a JD dealer how much new ones would cost then ask the seller to reduce his price by that amount.

 

[avc8130]

The 420 & 47 aren't heavy duty but they are adequate for your requirements. The seller should provide the 3-point setup since that's pretty much standard equipment that should come with all tractors. If he doesn't have the top-link and arms, I wouldn't buy the tractor or I would find out from a JD dealer how much new ones would cost then ask the seller to reduce his price by that amount.

He doesn't have the arms as he bought it with the backhoe already on it from the owner before. No arms are coming from this guy. I think he is firm on his asking price. Any ideas what the parts would cost me to get?
ac

 

[rekees4300]

Any ideas what the parts would cost me to get?
ac

This site has compact kits for around $200. The JD dealer would probably be double that?

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