Skidsteer Lift?

   / Skidsteer Lift? #41  
NO!

The tipping load is NEVER figured at maximum lift height; it is calculated at maximum reach. Both SAE and ISO specifications use this as the procedure for rating loaders (articulated, skid-steer, tractors).

(The ROC is half the tipping load for wheeled machines and 35% of the tipping load for tracked machines.)

Ok but Never? Isn't max reach on a Deere at max height?
 
   / Skidsteer Lift? #42  
Ok but Never? Isn't max reach on a Deere at max height?

Haha, you got me there. If a machine's maximum reach happens to correspond to its maximum lift height, then yes, that's where the tipping load is measured. My bad on that one...
 
   / Skidsteer Lift? #43  
Haha, you got me there. If a machine's maximum reach happens to correspond to its maximum lift height, then yes, that's where the tipping load is measured. My bad on that one...

You are right about the max reach part. I just confused it with the max height seeing that it is the same on the Deere.

So do you think it is safe to lift more than ROC?
 
   / Skidsteer Lift? #44  
WOW!!! You guys are amazing. i have just spent the past 15 minutes reading this thread and I have learned soooooooo much.:thumbsup: When people call to order ss attachments, they always ask me "how much can it carry?" or "what's the lift capacity?". It is hard to get them to understand that it is different for every machine. The grapple buckets have been the biggest headache.:confused: They think the bigger, the better. Not at all the case.
 
   / Skidsteer Lift? #45  
I haven't read every post in this thread, but just as most of you know the lift capacity of a skid steer is limited by the tip. An S300 is rated to lift 5848 lb to max height, tip limited (the hydraulics didn't crap out, the machine fell flat on it's face!). The point here is that the ROCs are calculated in such a manner that minimizes the liability of the company. Experience rules over all, as we know, but to answer the initial question of the S185 lift capacity...in Bobcat tests the max lift for a 185 is 3841 lbs at max height, hydraulic limited. Because of this, with a smooth lift and no travel an S185 CAN lift 3841 lbs without tipping.

As a side note the tests were completed with a particular set of options, the most notable affecting the capacity being: Deluxe Cab, European Tailgate, and Window Enclosure.
 
   / Skidsteer Lift? #46  
I haven't read every post in this thread, but just as most of you know the lift capacity of a skid steer is limited by the tip. An S300 is rated to lift 5848 lb to max height, tip limited (the hydraulics didn't crap out, the machine fell flat on it's face!). The point here is that the ROCs are calculated in such a manner that minimizes the liability of the company. Experience rules over all, as we know, but to answer the initial question of the S185 lift capacity...in Bobcat tests the max lift for a 185 is 3841 lbs at max height, hydraulic limited. Because of this, with a smooth lift and no travel an S185 CAN lift 3841 lbs without tipping.

As a side note the tests were completed with a particular set of options, the most notable affecting the capacity being: Deluxe Cab, European Tailgate, and Window Enclosure.

Where are you coming up with these numbers?
 
   / Skidsteer Lift?
  • Thread Starter
#47  
Those are some serious numbers no doubt, fact or not...

Just a FYI I went and drove a new Bobcat S650 M series what a sweet machine. I was looking at some slightly used S250's which are nice also. So now I just need to get some hard prices on them and decide.

Anyone use a snow pusher on one of these type units? If so 8' 9' 10'???
 
   / Skidsteer Lift? #48  
Ive used a 10 footer on a S300 worked fine just depends on the snow. You could always add what they call wolf paws for snow tires on your machine and it would improve greatly. I would also suggest a 2 speed for snow removal.
 
   / Skidsteer Lift?
  • Thread Starter
#49  
I just got some prices on loaded A91 package S650's not cheap at all:confused2:

But the New M series machines are sweet no doubt.

Thanks for all the info

Now I need to find some stimulus money to pay for one...:D
 
   / Skidsteer Lift? #50  
NO!

The tipping load is NEVER figured at maximum lift height; it is calculated at maximum reach. Both SAE and ISO specifications use this as the procedure for rating loaders (articulated, skid-steer, tractors).

(The ROC is half the tipping load for wheeled machines and 35% of the tipping load for tracked machines.)

Funny, my Takeuchi TL150 states right in the owners manual that the "Rated Operating Load at 50% of Tipping Load", not 35% tipping load. Tipping load is over 7000 pounds and I've picked up and moved around 7000 pounds with my 4n1 bucket hundreds of times. I just had a tree taken down and the stump section was too much for the crane to pick up and was showing about 7400 pounds on the crane. I used the bucked to "bite" one of the 12" or so stubs on it where limbs were cut off and carried it off no problem. Sure, I was really light in the back end and I didn't lift it but maybe 6" off the ground, but it did the job no problem.
 

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