Hay wagons; let's see them!
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joelaudi
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- 1960 Case 430, 1947 Ford 8N, 1942 Ford 9N [not running], 5252 Cub Cadet to cut the lawn, John deere 140 , Sears SS12, Crafsman 5000GT, and a Gravley 816 which may be the most rugged tractor that I have ever seen.
I made this wagon about two years ago. It is made of rough sawn oak and lots of VW and Audi parts. I the frame is 2x4x.125 tubing. I don't need it, but I wanted one. I use it to pull kids around at parties. {thats my son in the back ground}
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DMF
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Nice looking tractor!
Cool looking wagon. Looks perfect for hay rides!
No such thing as a dumb question! I can't speak for all states but in Mass we can pull these down the road. They keep talking about making us use taillights and directionals, etc. but as of yet they haven't done it. You can pull them as fast as your tractor will go which isn't all that fast. Some guys will tow them with pick-up trucks which obviously can go much faster but I never have. I wouldn't want to go over 30mph with mine....especially loaded.
No it's a good question. In NH they are street legal. When pulled behind a tractor, they are just consider an implement of husbandry(farming equipment) State only requires they display the triangular slow moving vehicle emblem. I don't know how fast they can go. I have only pulled them down the road behind my tractor, not much more than 20mph.
davehenrickson
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I'm new to the forum, but have searched high and low for an answer to my question. I've just picked up some rebuilt running gear and want to attach a box to it for hay rides and general farm hauling. None of the pictures/plans on the forum discuss how to attach a bed and still allow for the running gear to twist on the reach pole, as it is designed to do. Bolting longitudinal beams to the front and rear supports will stiffen the gear and prohibit the axles from articulating over rough terrain. Does anyone have an answer?
Use a loose loop of chain on each corner. That and a typical flat haywagon bed will flex to a certain degree.
aczlan
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Bolt the LF and RR, chain down the other two is how I have seen it done.
On ours, we built it with the idea of using it for hayrides, so we bolted all 4 corners and the frame itself has to flex.
Aaron Z
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We sell the new Kory gears and they will track the speed limit. Most of the older JD wagons will do pretty well at highway speeds. Ken Sweet
But not for long.
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I have 2 8 ton Kory's (6872) here on the farm with 20 ft flats on them and they have been in the tobacco and hay fields for about 20 years and they will track faster than I want to pull them.
Sorry Ken but I got to call BS here. There isn't a brand of 20 year old gear that will tow at the speed limit that has been used for anything more than parade floats. With some good mainteneance they can all tow well but not the speed limit, unless the limit is 20.
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Kory is different than most gears. They have replaceable automotive style ball joints on the steering tie rods and the only other thing you have to maintain is the cross bolt in the tongue. Ken Sweet
We have a couple of Korys and can't see where they are any better then any other brand. And we have a pretty good sample of the market. LOL
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Kory gears that are running with wore out tie rod end joints and play in the tongue will give tracking trouble, However, unlike most others, scheduled maintaince can keep them tracking correctly forever. It is just like putting new tie rod end on your truck or car when they get wore out. Ken Sweet
grnspot110
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I grew up with three John Deere #953 spring wagons, the oldest was worn enough you could only tow it up to around 20 mph. The other two could be towed 55 (empty) with no problem. Didn't tow that fast loaded, because you may have to stop them! ~~ grnspot110
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Those 953's were best of breed back in the day. I had rather have a 40 yr old JD 953 than 2 new box store gears. Ken Sweet
NewportNic
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Still have the tractor, but even though "Old Rock-A-Bye" got upgraded with 32 Ford axles, it sadly got scrapped in the mid 70's.
Renze
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Update: the Miedema tandem didnt show durable enough, 2 weeks ago i hauled 15 ton of haylage home with my wagon, and a borrowed wagon behind it. After driving 20km the left front wheel came off when i just turned onto our driveway:
This muck spreader i used the walking beam tandem of, made their own hubs with bad castings. The wheel hub splattered in four pieces, although the bearing it should retain, wasnt deformed nor hot, and was properly greased.
The 5 stud, stub axles are pressed into a bush in the walking beam, so what i'll do is cut down some beefier 3 ton, 6 stud axles and lathe them down so they will slip into the bushes, so i get a 6 ton braked tandem. I will use hydraulic brakes actuated by the tractors external control valve.
Last time i used it, i had to brake on the tractor alone, and those dry drum brakes squeeled like an Arab warrior....
The tractor wheels didnt skid due to the 2 ton drawbar load, but when i have another wagon hooked behind it, i get over 15 ton CGVW so i do need trailer brakes... When tractor and my own trailer have brakes, the borrowed trailer behind it, will never be able to overtake me when i get into an emergency situation..oh by the way: Indeed i reckoned the tandem as a 4 ton because of the light duty 5 stud hubs, but i use it as 6 ton... So actually it isnt the tandems fault but mine, which will be corrected now.
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