Might Need To Hot-wire My Kubota

[BlackSmokeLust]

When I use a jumper wire from the positive battery terminal to the white wire on the starter it spins but the solenoid does not push the gear out. I am hesitant to add 12 volts the BW solenoid wire since the WSM states to use 6V to test it.

 

[Willl]

2 wire starter ?, 1 heavy batt cable size, 1 light (12ga) ?

I don't know what "white wire on the starter" "BW solenoid wire" + "WSM" means.

 

[radioman]

Do you have a small red or white wire and a larger red wire to the starter? if so then your starter is grounded via the metal casing of starter and engine. The little wire is the start and big red wire is power to spin the motor of starter. Jumper those two posts on starter and see if the solenoid kicks out the engage gear. If it wont, its possible you may have a bad starter. Try taking the starter off motor and clean the post contacts and the body where starter touches the engine and remount. If it still won't work, then most likely you need a new starter. good luck.

 

[BlackSmokeLust]

2 wire starter ?, 1 heavy batt cable size, 1 light (12ga) ?

I don't know what "white wire on the starter" "BW solenoid wire" + "WSM" means.

Sorry. WSM as in Work Shop Manual. BW as in black and white.

Here is the schematic I have been referencing.

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[BlackSmokeLust]

Do you have a small red or white wire and a larger red wire to the starter? if so then your starter is grounded via the metal casing of starter and engine. The little wire is the start and big red wire is power to spin the motor of starter. Jumper those two posts on starter and see if the solenoid kicks out the engage gear. If it wont, its possible you may have a bad starter. Try taking the starter off motor and clean the post contacts and the body where starter touches the engine and remount. If it still won't work, then most likely you need a new starter. good luck.

Yes, the starter is grounded via the casing. When I apply 12 volts to the white wire the starter turns but solenoid does not pop out. Looking at the schematic it appears the safety switch circuit needs voltage to engage the starter solenoid as well. The manual states to use 6V to test the solenoid and that is keeping from running a 12 volt jumper to it.

 

[radioman]

okay- if starter turns, but solenoid not working, you already confirmed the issue. your solenoid is bad or sticking. find out if you can get a replacement solenoid, if not, I'd try the local autostores for a compatible solenoid for it otherewise you would need to pony up cash for whole starter/solenoid.

 

[BlackSmokeLust]

okay- if starter turns, but solenoid not working, you already confirmed the issue. your solenoid is bad or sticking. find out if you can get a replacement solenoid, if not, I'd try the local autostores for a compatible solenoid for it otherewise you would need to pony up cash for whole starter/solenoid.

I'll try and post the troubleshooting instructions for the starter solenoid. According to the manual you have to apply 6V of voltage @ 3-5 seconds to the solenoid to test, the black and white wire. According to the schematic the power to the solenoid comes from my safety switch circuit which currently has only .98 volts. This is completely different from the white wire that spins the starter.
According to the manual, in order to test the starter there are two procedures, one to test the motor spin and the other to test the solenoid.

I pulled the starter off yesterday and am ready to send it in for a rebuild if need be but would really like to bench test it myself though I don't want to go out and buy a 6V battery just for that.

Because the starter uses 6 volts on the solenoid I was hoping whatever is reducing the voltage might be the problem such as the IC Regulator.

 

[Patches]

If you have a 6/12 volt battery charger, you can use the 6 volt setting to test

 

[tcartwri]

Take a small hammer and tap the solenoid a few times and then try it again.

Note; tap does not equal bash.

 

[radioman]

okay- if starter turns, but solenoid not working, you already confirmed the issue. your solenoid is bad or sticking. find out if you can get a replacement solenoid, if not, I'd try the local autostores for a compatible solenoid for it otherewise you would need to pony up cash for whole starter/solenoid.