#1 diesel or #2

[Toyboy]

I just went and got some #1 diesel for my tractor. Can anyone tell me the difference between #1 and #2 winter blend other than #1 is $ .25 cents a gal. more? The attendant at the station did not know and neither do I.

 

[niemeyjt]

Viscosity and volatility.

#1 (aka kerosine over here) is 28 seconds viscosity and is more volatile than the # 2 (aka fuel oil) with 35 seconds viscosity.

I think #2 plus additives (winter blend) just prevents waxing - it does not increase volatility nor reduce viscosity.

J

 

[crazyal]

I've always thought #1 was very close to Kerosene but with a lubricant in it. Kerosene doesn't have as much power as #2. Not sure if #1 is the same powerwise to #2.

 

[number two]

These days kerosene and #1 are the same-cloud point about -40.The bulk plants don't want to stock more products than necessary.Lubricity will need to be added to kero/#1 to protect your fuel system. Better stations will provide blended fuel with additives(think Holiday)to reduce cloud point and improve lubricity.ULSD has a cloud point of 4-9F on the average.Good Luck!

 

[Toyboy]

From what you guys are saying, I should use # 2 year around. There's no advantage of using #1.

 

[RalphVa]

Only advantage to #1 is gel point. It doesn't gel unless temps go a lot below -40 F/C. You can get enough protection against gelling either by using an additive in #2 or by using 30-50% #1 in #2. Fuel use is less for #2 because it is heavier and has more BTUs.

Ralph

 

[LBrown59]

I explained that the station right down the road from me was selling on road; taxed diesel for $3.10 a gallon.
1*I'm rather confused as to how not paying roughly $0.40 cents (or so) in road tax and buying in somewhat of a bulk purchase warrants $0.30c more per gallon than taxed on road diesel at the pump.
2*I have to wonder about dyed #2 being more expensive than taxed, non-dyed #2. That just doesn't make sense to me. Anyone else notice anything like this?

1*It doesn't warrant it.
2*That dealer's padding the price

Just speculation on my part, based on casual observation.

I assume that sellers use a last-in, first-out (LIFO) pricing policy; i.e., they set their retail price based on the wholesale price of their latest inventory replenishment.
3*When wholesale fuel prices are increasing, high-volume sellers would increase their prices faster than low-volume sellers because they replenish their inventories more frequently.
Steve

3*I don't think that is the case here.

4*How much would it cost to hire a truck driver to drive to another jobber and deliver 700 gallons to you? Probably less than $280.00 (700 x .30).

4*Good idea.

I bought some #2 dyed deisel to put into my fuel oil tank at the farm for the Oil heat last friday. I purchased at Saluda Oil Co. In Saluda SC. They sell fuel oil and deliver it. I have a tractor truck service business and do tires all there. I paid $2.58.

5*I wish i had more capacity than the 2 5 gallon cans as all the talk its going up makes me wish i had bought more like 75 gallons.
By the way those of you that say that the dyed is the same as the pump and is ULSD.
6*At least here in SC its not.
7*This is the second fuel dealer who has told me off-road is LSD.
8*The fuel oil receipt they gave me listed 10 gallons of #2 dyed Low Sulfer Deisel.

5*You must be in one ot the 5% areas.
6*I keep a few extra 30 and 55 gallon drums around for that.
7*You must be dealing with a co. that hasn't used up or sold all their Low Sulfer Deisel because they aren't makeing any more of
8*They might it be using old sales receipts.

9*All 3 suppliers I've used all said they had to move to ULSD the first of this last year.
These suppliers are either not wanting any orders less than a thousand gallons
10*or they are just flat stabbing customers on the price.
but
11*now it's the principle of the suppliers making a killing per gallon!

9*That's cause they no longer make LSD.
10*That's it.
11*Something is fishy here.

12*Maybe my memory is bad, but it seemed like it saved me at least 50 cents a gallon, if not more, compared with filling 5 gallon cans at the gas station with on road diesel.
13*I guess that's my problem;
14*I can't figure out how it's the same price for non-taxed, dyed off road use only diesel as it is for diesel at the pump that has a road tax already added to the price.
15*It just doesn't add up in my mind.

12*Nothing wrong with your memory nothing at all.
13*No you don't have that problem
14*That's cause it don't figgure.
15*It don't add up period.

 

[clemsonfor]

1*It doesn't warrant it.
2*That dealer's padding the price

3*I don't think that is the case here.

4*Good idea.

5*You must be in one ot the 5% areas.
6*I keep a few extra 30 and 55 gallon drums around for that.
7*You must be dealing with a co. that hasn't used up or sold all their Low Sulfer Deisel because they aren't makeing any more of
8*They might it be using old sales receipts.

9*That's cause they no longer make LSD.
10*That's it.
11*Something is fishy here.

12*Nothing wrong with your memory nothing at all.
13*No you don't have that problem
14*That's cause it don't figgure.
15*It don't add up period.

What??? I think you had 2 threads open at the same time and posted this response to both. This goes with Dargo's post.