GM introduces Diesel off road pickup

[Dmace]

Too bad the urea freezes in the 2011 duramaxes ... they forgot aboot how cold it gets in Canada ////////

There must be something wrong with the system. BOTH new GM and Ford diesels have heating systems built in to the tank and injectors. Urea freezes at about 12F. They obviously designed the system for that since it gets plenty cold down here in the states too.

Here is a PDF file on GM's website explaining the DEF system and it's components.
Check out page 9: http://www.chevrolet.com/assets/pdf/owners/manuals/2011/SilveradoHD_DEF_6-23.pdf

Q. Will DEF freeze?
A. Yes, DEF will freeze at approximately 12F. If DEF is frozen, the vehicle will start as it always has. As soon as the vehicle is started, the DEF tank and lines are electrically heated to ensure adequate DEF delivery in cold weather. The DEF thaws with no degradation. Remember, since this system was designed to operate in cold weather, there is no impact on cold-weather engine operation."

Trade both of those trucks in for some Dodge diesels which still don't use DEF. Problem solved!

 

[Builder]

Maybe a little elf pulled all the fuses out of the GM trucks' urea heaters.....

 

[Diamondpilot]

Maybe a little elf pulled all the fuses out of the GM trucks' urea heaters.....

I have to agree with you. Seems like sabotage to me. Does not make since that brand A would have no issues while brand B would using the same stuff. Maybe someone took a leak in the tank.:laughing: Some of my buddies did that to a friends quad runner while he was in his deer stand. After 2 hours of pushing it out of the woods, wrestling it in the truck, and getting it home he figured it out after a few hours in the shop. We still laugh about that one.

And no, I was not responsible. I was busy dealing with that east coast storm getting our people home.:laughing:

Chris

 

[Builder]

I have to agree with you. Seems like sabotage to me. Does not make since that brand A would have no issues while brand B would using the same stuff. Maybe someone took a leak in the tank.:laughing: Some of my buddies did that to a friends quad runner while he was in his deer stand. After 2 hours of pushing it out of the woods, wrestling it in the truck, and getting it home he figured it out after a few hours in the shop. We still laugh about that one.


Chris

I'd be knockin someone's teeth out if they did that to me.

Broker, hope you get it worked out...

 

[L-ENTERPRISES]

I'd be knockin someone's teeth out if they did that to me.

Broker, hope you get it worked out...

Blowing dry snow packed along the fuel lines , frame rail and froze causing the limp after 300km of hauling thru the storm . Looks like we need a cover of some sort to keep the snow out .

 

[Diamondpilot]

Blowing dry snow packed along the fuel lines , frame rail and froze causing the limp after 300km of hauling thru the storm . Looks like we need a cover of some sort to keep the snow out .

GM's Dmax started having trouble with the 08 model and after in the snow. They are sucking up snow off the left front wheel if I remember right filling the air filter and contaminating the the mass air flow sensor. Google it, its a common problem. Not sure if it holds over this long but my guess is yes. GM is good at letting common problems run for 10 years plus like the leaking tranny cooler lines, steering shaft, ect.

Chris

 

[Builder]

GM's Dmax started having trouble with the 08 model and after in the snow. They are sucking up snow off the left front wheel if I remember right filling the air filter and contaminating the the mass air flow sensor. Google it, its a common problem. Not sure if it holds over this long but my guess is yes. GM is good at letting common problems run for 10 years plus like the leaking tranny cooler lines, steering shaft, ect.

Chris

Ford was also good at that. They left a E4OD then the 4R100 car transmissions behind diesel engines in their trucks for like 10+ years. My bank account still feels the pain. "Lifetime" ball joints are another premium priced Ford part that doesn't last a "lifetime". :laughing:

 

[Builder]

Blowing dry snow packed along the fuel lines , frame rail and froze causing the limp after 300km of hauling thru the storm . Looks like we need a cover of some sort to keep the snow out .

In the meantime have the drivers occassionally clean out packed snow until GM retrofits a cover????

 

[Diamondpilot]

Ford was also good at that. They left a E4OD then the 4R100 car transmissions behind diesel engines in their trucks for like 10+ years. My bank account still feels the pain. "Lifetime" ball joints are another premium priced Ford part that doesn't last a "lifetime". :laughing:

While the trannys have never been a issue for me and my friends I will give you the ball joints and tie rod ends. I usually get 50,000 to 60,000 miles out of mine or 2 sets of tires on my 3/4 ton trucks and up. NO Problems what so ever on the 1/2 tons.

For the trannys put the largest cooler you can find if you are towing 75% or more of the tow rating or pushing snow and change the fluid every 30,000 miles and you are good to go. I have owned dozens of these trucks that have went well over 150,000 miles with no issues.

Chris

 

[Duffster]

Ford was also good at that. They left a E4OD then the 4R100 car transmissions behind diesel engines in their trucks for like 10+ years. My bank account still feels the pain. "Lifetime" ball joints are another premium priced Ford part that doesn't last a "lifetime". :laughing:

You mean that is a car tansmission I have behind my PSD with 300k on it?