3pt problems when cold

   / 3pt problems when cold #1  

DaveUK

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When it gets to well below freezing, the 3 pt won't come up. It will drop ok, but when pulling up the lever, the pump shrieks (and the arms won't move), or the arms will jump up a little at a time. Any ideas?
 
   / 3pt problems when cold #2  
Water in the hydraulic system freezing?
 
   / 3pt problems when cold #3  
Probably water in the hydraulic fluid. What happens is the water freezes and plugs up the hydraulic filter. I would do a crackle test and go from there. Crackle test is easy and it is a zero cost if you have some sort of hot plate. CRACKLE TEST. If it is not possible to change the fluid for a while and you still need the tractor then try to preheat the tractor in a garage or use a blower type heater.
 
   / 3pt problems when cold #4  
Probably water in the hydraulic fluid. What happens is the water freezes and plugs up the hydraulic filter. I would do a crackle test and go from there. Crackle test is easy and it is a zero cost if you have some sort of hot plate. CRACKLE TEST. If it is not possible to change the fluid for a while and you still need the tractor then try to preheat the tractor in a garage or use a blower type heater.

Well now, I have never heard of the crackle test. Very interesting. :thumbsup:
 
   / 3pt problems when cold #5  
It does not have to have water in the system to do that but it is a contributing factor. Cold oil is thick oil, therefore the viscosity of the trans/hyd oil is more critical as well as the cleanliness of the filter screen. It was because of poor cold weather performance that I switched to Dextron ATF. The hyd systen has become much more responsive in the winter and I do not get pump squeal (That can actually do some real damage to the pump--oil starvation). If you do not want to switch to the ATF still make sure you have the proper grade of oil in the trans and the filter screen is clean.

Mike
 
   / 3pt problems when cold #6  
It does not have to have water in the system to do that but it is a contributing factor. Cold oil is thick oil, therefore the viscosity of the trans/hyd oil is more critical as well as the cleanliness of the filter screen. It was because of poor cold weather performance that I switched to Dextron ATF. The hyd systen has become much more responsive in the winter and I do not get pump squeal (That can actually do some real damage to the pump--oil starvation). If you do not want to switch to the ATF still make sure you have the proper grade of oil in the trans and the filter screen is clean.

Mike

Tis true.
 
   / 3pt problems when cold #8  
Normally caused by storing your tractor outdoors. A bad shift lever dust boot makes it worse.
 
   / 3pt problems when cold #9  
This is a good subject for me to pay attention to as my hydraulic system is inoperable in very cold weather until the tractor is warmed up for at least 20-30 min. I'm guessing that in my case, the fluid is a heavier grade which works well in the summer but not so much in the winter.

Could it also be possible for water to enter the hydraulic systen through condensation? Just thinking if the tractor is stored outside, the environmental extremes may make this a possibility. But I could be way off, as this is just a random guess. Probably not, if the transmission/steering/hydraulic system is full.

Perhaps some of the more scientific members of the forum could weigh in on this, as it seems to be a common enough problem for many to benefit.

Joe
 
   / 3pt problems when cold #10  
Or bad , or no O-ring on your filler cap, bad seals around things or just the old condensation in half filled chamber.
 

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