Anyone been over at AS lately?

[Car Doc]

Hope this isn't a bad thing to mention another site if so I sure do apologize?

Wow did they change the look its totally different it surprised me I almost thought I was at the wrong forum!

Looks interesting apparently rep is different (maybe not even used now?) and what they call credits is something you get for posting and starting threads now check it out.

 

[ENTS]

Just jumped over there. Really radical changes. I can see this credit thing getting out of hand like the rep did. Oh well, the only constant is change.

 

[Steve C]

Hope this isn't a bad thing to mention another site if so I sure do apologize?

Wow did they change the look its totally different it surprised me I almost thought I was at the wrong forum!

Looks interesting apparently rep is different (maybe not even used now?) and what they call credits is something you get for posting and starting threads now check it out.

yes
I hate it
I have 1500+ posts there but I won't be going back...
If I knew how to become an un-member I would.:laughing:

 

[Shmudda]

Personally I really dont care for their new look. Hard to move around and also see the information on the threads.

Just have to get used to it I guess.....

Craig

 

[LD1]

Yea they even had a tread that was basically a "beg for rep" thread. Most people over there were maxed out and it made the system about meaningless. I kinda wish this forum had something like "rep".

But no I dont frequent that forum anymore. Only if I am looking for information on a saw that I cant find anywhere else.

There are several reasons why I dont go there anymore. Mainly the moderation. If you have a legitamate problem, or something negative to say at ALL about a product that is from one of their "sponsers", they ban you or delete your post. So all you see is the good things about their sponsers. Its not really a good place to go for a review on something because it is bias.

Also, If you even mention a product or reccomend something that is not from one of their sponsers, same thing.

I personally like to see fair and un-biased reviews for products I am interested in. That is what makes this place nice.

And IMO, the members over their are a little bit snobbish IMO. Almost every question asked by a new guy gets at least two immediate replys that say "use the search function". That forum has like 2.5million posts. I am sure EVERYTHING can be found by searching.

Anyway, I much perfer it here. More friendly, less arguing, and more non-biased. But this is just my opinion.

 

[carpenter383]

Yep it's definately harder to navigate now. I can't figure out where the user CP went

 

[LD1]

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

the search function sucked before they upgraded the system. As near as I can tell now it doesn't work at all.

I was called ignorant and babbling by one of the sites most respected members. Yes there seems to be several groups of guys who kind of gang up on anyone who makes an attempt to infiltrate their little corner of the universe. One guy even suggested that a well placed shot would take care of the problem (me) when I tried to join in on a discussion they were having. I didn't think that was at all called for. I try to get along with everyone and demeaning somebody who you have never met is idiotic.

I am not the smartest guy on the planet, but I have designed and built Nuclear power plants and chemical processing plants and I am pretty good at welding and rebuilding engines. I have also installed all the plumbing, wiring, furnace and ductwork in my house, so I am not without some skills.

I have never been treated like that here. Perhaps tractor owners are just a more laid back group.

I am glad I am not the only one who dis-likes AS.

A few other things I dis-like about "that" community:

They will ALWAYS tell you to hire a professional. I guess that is their job security. You could have a little ol 8" tree out in the muddle of nowhere and inquire about how to take it down and they will always tell you that it is too dangerous and to hire it done.

They also always bash ANY homeowner grade saw or product. I guess they dont see the market for a low end saw that only gets used a couple of times a year. But for them, unless it is pro-grade, it is junk.

Lastly, dont ever inquire about saw pricing there. Because unless you "stole" it, you didn't get a good deal. Threads where people say things like "I would never pay more than $200 for a used 372xp" or "Last 066 I bought in like new condition for $250".

 

[Car Doc]

It is different that's for sure! I certainly share some of the same feelings with LD1 and Steve C you guys are not alone by any stretch believe me.

I have been a long time poster there also and found the clique can be rather annoying at times so I stay away mostly these days even though I have some friends there that aren't cliquish. :thumbsup:

I have been known to annoy folks too so I am just as guilty as the next guy I have my preferences and I don't hesitate to speak out but I try hard not to rip people into shreds unless they draw first blood.

This place is a whole lot easier to get along just being a nobody pretty much always although there are a few knuckleheads on here I won't bother with.

 

[crazyal]

Every so often I'll read a review but usually there's not much info as the fans of the two name brands most people think about turn them into too much of a debate about something that has nothing to do with the OP.

I did try the other night and got a message saying the forum software was being updated, Tues I think, and wouldn't be back up until 2am. I've never taken the time to create a user ID or join.

 

[Steve C]

Yep it's definately harder to navigate now. I can't figure out where the user CP went

I think you can find the uswer CP under settings....unless they have moved it again...:laughing:

 

[newbury]

Hope this isn't a bad thing to mention another site if so I sure do apologize?

Wow did they change the look its totally different it surprised me I almost thought I was at the wrong forum!

Looks interesting apparently rep is different (maybe not even used now?) and what they call credits is something you get for posting and starting threads now check it out.

Yes
They are fixing it - colors are not blinding
Rep and post count are meaningless statistics anyways

But if I had stuck here I wouldn't have 2 Stihl 660's with modded mufflers (and one of them producing power like a Stihl 880) for the cost of one new one. And making furniture from wood I've milled.

Face it not many of us can afford three tractors for personal use. But on AS almost everybody has at least 3 chainsaws. (I've 5 runners)

Here almost every used tractor costs thousands so we have a lot more invested. And the education level of the members seems higher here.

When visiting forums it's important to take into account the "center mass" of the forum. There are some "green" forums that if you mention chainsaw you get jumped on. But they have great info on hybrid cars.

 

[dex3361]

AS, I do not understand?

 

[mcd176]

Me neither what is AS?

 

[ultrarunner]

Me neither what is AS?

My guess is arboristsite.com

 

[newbury]

My guess is arboristsite.com

AS in I have CAD and CSM

 

[Car Doc]

I should add that there is a wealth of info at AS for anyone that's reading this and unaware of the site there are pros in many different arborist type endeavors.

As has been mentioned you may find the urge to buy a saw or 10 or learn how to properly fell a tree w/o killing everyone around mainly YOU! :thumbsup:

There are some real fine people that do help the new guy myself included so don't take anything in a negative way overall or be afraid to ask a question you take the good with the bad as is everywhere.

The new look just took me by surprise and just wondered if anyone here had seen it I was just there earlier this week it was the other way. :confused2:

And newbury I agree with you the rep at least had a life of its own it seems my rep givin and received was completely based on merit and quality of posts not who posted it. The beg for rep Andy started was a joke and it definitely went haywire imo.

 

[LD1]

I should add that there is a wealth of info at AS for anyone that's reading this and unaware of the site there are pros in many different arborist type endeavors.

As has been mentioned you may find the urge to buy a saw or 10 or learn how to properly fell a tree w/o killing everyone around mainly YOU! :thumbsup:

There are some real fine people that do help the new guy myself included so don't take anything in a negative way overall or be afraid to ask a question you take the good with the bad as is everywhere.

The new look just took me by surprise and just wondered if anyone here had seen it I was just there earlier this week it was the other way. :confused2:

And newbury I agree with you the rep at least had a life of its own it seems my rep givin and received was completely based on merit and quality of posts not who posted it. The beg for rep Andy started was a joke and it definitely went haywire imo.

Yes there are lots of good folks over there more than willing to help people out. I just find that the few "snobbish" and "cliquety (if thats a word)" types overshadow the good ones on there.

Thats usually why I if I cannot find the answers I am looking for by searching, I am reluctant to post until I have exhausted all other resources and even asked over here. I will say that I am very greatful that the mods here decided to add a chainsaw section. I can see this being one of my favorite new sections of this great community.

And another note about AS and some of the things I mentioned earlier about the moderators there and banning people. A few of them started their own forum. Racesaws.com I think. It is a lot of the same negativity at AS, but mostly directed at AS. They refer to AS as "the other site". But I havent been on that forum in over a year so maybe things changed. And last I knew, If you even mentioned racesaws on AS, they would delete your post or ban you. And the guys there are mostly geared toward hotsaws, saw racing sports, alcohol saws, etc.

But to each his own. I would much rather "waste" my day reading here on TBN than on AS.

 

[tsteahr]

Can someone educate me about these "rep points" some other sites use? Do members give each other points? It seems like it would be somewhat of a popularity contest, a little like high school. The cool or popular people get the most reps?

Where do the points come from? Is there money involved with the points? Can they be used for anything, or traded? Do members buy points? Perhaps it is a method for the site host to generate some income to keep the site running? That would make sense.

I've seen these reps at other sites but never understood the why's and how's? To someone to does not know anything about the process, it looks a little silly from the outside.

So I'm hoping someone can get me up to speed on this.

Thanks!

Edit: I'm not referring to AS specifically. I've seen these points used on a number of totally unrelated sites. I'm not trying to make any comments about AS. Just looking for general understanding.

 

[LD1]

Well I don't know of other sites that use rep, so I can only speak on behalf of AS.

But you are right, it is really like a popularity contest.

Basically, members give eachother rep, both positive and negative. The higher the rep of the person giving the rep, the more points the reciever gets. So If you have little or no rep, and you rep someone, they dont get as many points as rep given by someone with a lot of rep.

Rep can be given for numerous reasons. The way it was intended was, if someone made a good post, you reped them.

Like on this site, If someone built something, gave lots of hepful detail, pleanty of pics, etc, you would rep them. If they gave good advice to a problem someone was having, you reped them.

But if someone (we dont have many here) is always saying negative things, and just posting to be posting and not being helpful, or always argumentative, you would give negative rep. This would take away their points.

It was intended to be kinda like the feedback score on ebay. So newer members can see at a glance who has a history of giving good sound advise and always makes posts that are worth reading. You can also see who are the ones whos posts arent worth the time it takes to read.

Does that clear things up for you?

 

[Car Doc]

rep-

Rep added up a lot faster for you if the person giving the rep had a pile of them and viseversa and so on so forth each symbol has certain points and once you got so many a new symbol would appear under your name.

The idea was sound imho the application is where a lot of people had issues with and really lots of people could care less and didn't pay any attention to it whatsoever.

The butt kissing (my words) was done usually to the ones with the most rep sort of a mutual back patting society for a certain group of them and that's my personal feelings on the subject I may be wrong about the reasoning.

It looks like the rep is one reason there is a change going on but I could be wrong?