brick pavers for shop floor?

   / brick pavers for shop floor? #11  
I set an area about 1/4 of what you propose in pavers. I had them for free. Never again..I was young then. I cannot remember how many days it took but it was a bunch. Of course I was not a professional, just a weekend warrior setting pavers.. But it was no fun.. to set over 5000 pavers would be quite a job.
James K0UA
 
   / brick pavers for shop floor? #12  
Well I thought I was needing schooled on construction. Turns out I needed schooling in math. The pavers wouldn't be a cost saving over concrete. Looks like I'm back to concrete as only viable option. Thanks for the help.

Have you looked into asphalt? Can you build a form and level the cement yourself? If so I would think a 4" floating slab is all you need and with rebar or mesh you should still be under $1k.
 
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Asphalt is damaged if oil is spilled on it. Doesn't work to well with jacks and jack stands in Florida heat. If I go with concrete plan was to pour 4" with 6" footer where large drive in door would be. With wire mesh (on stands)and fiber reinforcement. Most likely will use 5000psi concrete. My primary trade is in commercial laundry equipment. Weak concrete is something I have learned to hate. :mad:
 
   / brick pavers for shop floor? #14  
For the little extra bit of money, you might as well have the entire slab be around 6". A well compacted base under the slab is also very important.:thumbsup:
 
   / brick pavers for shop floor? #15  
Asphalt is damaged if oil is spilled on it. Doesn't work to well with jacks and jack stands in Florida heat. If I go with concrete plan was to pour 4" with 6" footer where large drive in door would be. With wire mesh (on stands)and fiber reinforcement. Most likely will use 5000psi concrete. My primary trade is in commercial laundry equipment. Weak concrete is something I have learned to hate. :mad:

Don't rely on fiber or mesh as the best reinfircement. Fiber is not a primary reinforcement admixture. Mesh isn't much better.

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   / brick pavers for shop floor? #16  
Have you looked into asphalt? Can you build a form and level the cement yourself? If so I would think a 4" floating slab is all you need and with rebar or mesh you should still be under $1k.

To do a 4" slab he would need 15 yards. Its about $100 per yard here in my area for 3000 psi with mesh. I put wire in it also. I just had a pad poured last summer that was 15x40. Materials was $1200 for my thickness 6", and I paid $.65 per sq ft to have it finished. That was me digging it out and framing it up.

So it was $400 to have it finished and $1200 in materials.

I use 3000 psi in my barn with no issues and same with my sidewalks. My drive got 4000 psi.

Chris
 
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Don't rely on fiber or mesh as the best reinfircement. Fiber is not a primary reinforcement admixture. Mesh isn't much better.

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What do you have in mind? rebar? I do plan putting in the footer at the door but didn't plan on doing all in rebar. The concrete will not bear building load also frost heave isn't a concern in Florida. If I understand right the fiber helps to prevent cracking. :confused:
 
   / brick pavers for shop floor? #18  
Well I thought I was needing schooled on construction. Turns out I needed schooling in math. The pavers wouldn't be a cost saving over concrete. Looks like I'm back to concrete as only viable option. Thanks for the help.



In addition to that, I built a house with a concrete floor in the garage and cobble stone driveway. I wanted to do some of the maintenance or repair work on my vehicles outside as it would be easier to move around the entire vehicle. No way, it was easier to park inside with enough room to do one side and then move it to access the other. It was just too hard for moving lots of things,. not just those on wheels. In addition, if/when you spill something it's almost impossible to clean up properly. My personal experience.
 
   / brick pavers for shop floor? #19  
What do you have in mind? rebar? I do plan putting in the footer at the door but didn't plan on doing all in rebar. The concrete will not bear building load also frost heave isn't a concern in Florida. If I understand right the fiber helps to prevent cracking. :confused:
Properly placed rebar is the proper reinforcement that will provide it's intended function. Mesh is useless and fiber is for surface shrinkage cracking only. It provides no primary load reinforcement. None.

If you place any weight on your slab, you have a load, regardless. A 200 lb person may not be relevant but a light-duty vehicle such as a 2500 / 3500 series truck will put ~ 8000 lbs of load. Mesh will do nothing for you in any regard. Rebar in the footer is a must as far as I am concerned.

Rebar is your call, but to additionally control cracking, place joints in your slab (very liberally) to control where you want the cracks to be, otherwise cracking becomes random. I personally recommend placing control joints as the concrete is finished, in lieu of saw cutting later (the lazy man's way) as stress has already had an opportunity to build once curing begins.

Three-thousand lb mix will normally test out to about 8 - 9k psi after 30 days (if you were to keep a sample and test it in a lab, easy enough to do). If you want to see how your cure is going during the 30 days of hydration, keep out 4 seperate samples and test one at 7, 14, 21, 28 day intervals and watch the sample results when placed in compression. It's kind of neat to see just how 3000 lb will turn out.

Have an air-entrainment admixture added as well. Your location is not necessarily needy of air entrainment but add it anyway. The may do it at the batch plant, but mention it to make sure.
 
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What does the air entrainment do?
 

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