Question about shelf life for gasoline

[SARG]

Midstate actually ........... Schoharie valley.

 

[MMG]

I didn稚 read all of the posts by have to say that GAS will burn if it is 30 days old or 30 months old. I bought a farm that had an old Farmall H that was locked up (came with the deal). Two years later, I took about 8 gallons of gas out of the tank and put it into my 78 CJ7 with a stock 304 V8. Jeep ran as good as when I put fresh gas in it.

 

[Duffster]

Think on a grander scale than a small treated tank in a controlled environment.

Is a thousand gallons of tractor fuel sitting outside grand enough and uncontrolled enough?

All this -10 talk is getting me in the mood for a good cold snap.:laughing: Supposed to be just that tommorow night.

 

[Natureboy]

Is a thousand gallons of tractor fuel sitting outside grand enough and uncontrolled enough?

All this -10 talk is getting me in the mood for a good cold snap.:laughing: Supposed to be just that tommorow night.

Duffster, I'm seein' the light! If you ever open a HHO business in my neck of the woods with your "Miracle" no gel heating oil, I'm your first customer!:thumbsup:I am really getting sick of dealing with these dang oil companies around here that charge for an inferior product and dont know what they are talking about.:laughing:
Peace & stay warm brother.....

 

[Natureboy]

Thanks to all for your help.

 

[Duffster]

:I am really getting sick of dealing with these dang oil companies around here that charge for an inferior product and dont know what they are talking about.:

I can see how it would get frustrating.

 

[LBrown59]

Craig, I thought about the propane or diesal alternatives. Propane was a no go because
1* we presently use heating oil for occasional furnace use .
2*Did not want another tank in the yard, and smaller tanks would not last too long in a prolonged outage, even if I had a convenient place to get them filled.
3* Diesal was not the answer either, as the only thing I own that runs on it is my CK20.
4*While the diesal may last 5 years, I can't say for certain if I would use that amount of diesal in a reasonable time.
5*Plus I dont like the idea of using fuel that old in my tractor.
K7LN, back in Oct. 2006, we had what the weathermen called "the October surprise storm" (they probably called it that because not a one of those highly paid predictors saw it coming) in which we got massively heavy, wet snow in a short period of time while the leaves were still on the trees. Long story short, most did not have power for 1 to 2 weeks. Until that time,
6*I was keeping the genny tank full with a couple of spare cans being rotated.
7*Gas stations were also without power, and you couldnt get through the clogged roads to get out of town to one that had power.
8*Thats why I was wondering if anyone else has had luck storing gas for that amount of time.

1* I would have gotten a diesel gen. and ran it on this fuel .
I would be running my tractor from this tank also.
Why pay a service station more money for the same thing you get free delivery of at home ?
BTW the way It and diesel are the same thing due to the following.
About the only fuel available out there is ULSD since 95% of todays production is that.
Nearly gone since that converson is HHO Diesel #1 & #2 and of road and on road.
2*You don't need another tank just use the one you have.
3*I thought you said we use heating oil IE Diesel for occasional furnace use .
4*Looks like you could / might if you ran the furnace tractor and gen on the same fuel.
5*Run everything on the same fuel and it will never get that old.
6*You can do the same thing with diesel .
Two big advantages of diesel is it has a longer shelf life and is safer to store.
7*Another reason to have a storage system like this.

8*Go with diesel.

Just for info..... I recently read that the Sta-Bil Marine (green) and the Sta-Bil diesel formula (brown)

9*a different color because of the issues created from putting "red" Sta-bil into diesel fuel ......... making it appear like the dyed home heating #2.

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9*I'd think they would have to prove it was red dye rather than Sta-Bil.

10*I find that extremely hard to believe.

10*So do I.

Not hard to believe at all.
11* Most smart folks up here that have their tanks exposed to the cold use either full kerosene or a strong mix with #2 fuel oil nearing 50/50 at least.

11*Full Kero is a bad Idea don't go over plain old diesel with 20 to 30 percent Kero.

You guys like paying more for weaker fuel?

12*We just treat #2 diesel but if you want something thinner than #2 wouldn't diesel #1 be cheaper?

12*Isn't one of these just Diesel with out any Kero added and the other is plain ole diesel with a kero mix !

13*So what do you use in the tractors?

13*He can use the heating oil .

14*Diesel, from the gas station. Around October they start carrying the winter blend.
15*A little PS & your good to go.
16*The HHO delivery service I use has been in business forever-and recommends kerosene for my situation.
17*No other delivery service will"guarantee" a blend will not give me problems.
I live on a windy hill, temps at times have dropped to -10 degrees F.
18*So yes, kerosene it is...:thumbsup:

14*Why do you go there and spend more for the same thing you have setting at home in your tank?
15*So are you with that stuff you already have at home plus they probably deliver it to you so that you don't have to run after it.
16*Sure they do Kero is more expensive and sales tax is added .
17*Pretty easy to make that statement with Kero.but that don't mean it's the correct or best option.
18*How are you going to get The Gasoline GEN to run on the kerosene ?

19*If it works in the tractor tank it would work in the house tank.

19*Or what ever works in the house will also work in the tractor and or a diesel Gen.

 

[SARG]

Just for info..... I recently read that the Sta-Bil Marine (green) and the Sta-Bil diesel formula (brown) are a different color because of the issues created from putting "red" Sta-bil into diesel fuel ......... making it appear like the dyed home heating #2.

The Sta-Bil website even mentions this situation.

Just a follow up on my earlier post. Here's a copy-paste taken from the Sta-Bil website i.e. the Q&A page.



Q: I thought Regular (Red) STA-BILｮ worked in Diesel Fuel, how is Diesel Formula STA-BILｮ better?
A: Regulatory actions taken by the EPA over the last few years have resulted in diesel fuel reformulations (reduction of sulfur content), creating a need for more, specialized diesel-specific additives that add needed lubricity agents back to the fuel, and to help protect against corrosion and the breakdown of fuel caused by thermal oxidation (heating of the fuel as it re-circulates through the system). In addition, Regular STA-BILｮ contains a red dye, which can lead to potential legal issues if used in On-Road Diesel fuel, as Off-Road Diesel is purposely dyed red for tax subsidy purposes.


With all the resident authorities on this site one must be careful to be objective versus subjective. Only so many opinions will comfortably fit on a thread.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Again- not to belabor the point but it isn't black here...it is blue.
Even the link you provided clearly shows in the pic it is blue

It looks blue there I agree but I have a case of the stuff in my barn and it looks black to me. Maybe we can agree on Grey.:thumbsup:

Chris

 

[Skyco]

No problem...I'm just curious about it! Like I said I was astounded once to buy some Castrol on a trip out west and when I got home the extra quarts from out there were nothing like the Castol I was buying here...I just was wondering if Stabil is produced in different facilities..