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What a lot of complaining!, I think you have to look at the bright side at least a little bit. First of all, you've got a tractor! I don't think there is any better tool to handle snow. With a loader you can move those snow banks around all day and I guarantee you won't be as tired as your neighbors trying to break out of their driveway to the street with a shovel. Of course it can be tricky getting the tractor onto the roof to clear it and prevent ice dams, but if you are up there doing it by hand and you fall off you likely won't get hurt. I've been out every storm clearing my property, then I drive around and "rescue" folks who are buried in drifts. By spring I'll be a hero in my neighborhood and maybe some of them will drop the charges they have pending against me.
 
   / omg more snow #23  
What a lot of complaining!, I think you have to look at the bright side at least a little bit. First of all, you've got a tractor! I don't think there is any better tool to handle snow. With a loader you can move those snow banks around all day and I guarantee you won't be as tired as your neighbors trying to break out of their driveway to the street with a shovel. Of course it can be tricky getting the tractor onto the roof to clear it and prevent ice dams, but if you are up there doing it by hand and you fall off you likely won't get hurt. I've been out every storm clearing my property, then I drive around and "rescue" folks who are buried in drifts. By spring I'll be a hero in my neighborhood and maybe some of them will drop the charges they have pending against me.

Book him, Dano.:D
 
   / omg more snow #24  
Thanks for all the good advice guys. I am going home today & try knocking off all the ice I can reach. The roof pitch is 1 to 1 - nobody going up there till spring. Prior to this last storm part of the roof was actually clean. I am sure it was due to the fact that the snow up to now has been pretty dry. That coupled with the roof pitch & wind have kept a lot off of it.

The good news is I have a new propane company coming today to make a delivery. Ahhh clean clothes again!

You can clear enough from a ladder using a snow rake and shovel. Also have seen pros sprinkle ice melt on ice at the edge to soften it up. If you do see ice on the roof shingles, I would use ice melt and let a little sunshine get on it rather than trying to break it up - that's hard on the shingles. If you have to bust up ice on shingles, use a flat faced hammer to crack the ice and bounce it loose a bit. Good luck and be careful.
Dave.
 
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with the size of those ice's you probley have a large heat loss in the roof .be careful when it warms up and the snow comes off the roof :(
 
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Got up to 60 today, supposed to hit about 64 tomorrow with plenty of sunshine in the forecast for the weekend!! Ya'll be sure and keep all that cold mess up there now, ya hear? ;)
 
   / omg more snow #27  
What a lot of complaining!, I think you have to look at the bright side at least a little bit. First of all, you've got a tractor! I don't think there is any better tool to handle snow. With a loader you can move those snow banks around all day and I guarantee you won't be as tired as your neighbors trying to break out of their driveway to the street with a shovel. Of course it can be tricky getting the tractor onto the roof to clear it and prevent ice dams, but if you are up there doing it by hand and you fall off you likely won't get hurt. I've been out every storm clearing my property, then I drive around and "rescue" folks who are buried in drifts. By spring I'll be a hero in my neighborhood and maybe some of them will drop the charges they have pending against me.

If you can drive your tractor onto the roof, you have too much snow!
 
   / omg more snow #28  
Yep, its been one heck of a snow season here in CT. Stores all sold out of snowblowers, roof rakes, and even snow shovels! Lots of news stories of roofs collapsing. Its getting really dangerous around here.

Just got done with 2 days of shoveling the house roof and raking what I could from the barn roof. Borrowed the neighbors rake... he was lucky enough to catch a new supply come in at ACE hardware a week or so ago. Back breaking work. I was lucky to hire the neighbors teen son to help me or I don't think I would've made it. With another storm predicted for mid week, towns are telling folks to get the snow off the roofs before it hits. Trying to find a contractor to clear the roof is becoming a desperate endevor.

I pray for spring! :)
 
   / omg more snow #29  
Yep, its been one heck of a snow season here in CT. Stores all sold out of snowblowers, roof rakes, and even snow shovels! Lots of news stories of roofs collapsing. Its getting really dangerous around here.

Just got done with 2 days of shoveling the house roof and raking what I could from the barn roof. Borrowed the neighbors rake... he was lucky enough to catch a new supply come in at ACE hardware a week or so ago. Back breaking work. I was lucky to hire the neighbors teen son to help me or I don't think I would've made it. With another storm predicted for mid week, towns are telling folks to get the snow off the roofs before it hits. Trying to find a contractor to clear the roof is becoming a desperate endevor.

I pray for spring! :)

Yup...I too have been there and done that. It is absolutely exhausting.

You have done what you had to do. The people that choose not to lose.

Did you notice the different hoar layers. It's like you can inspect and count the storms when it builds up to 3 or 4 feet.

I have a lot of respect for snow...therefore I love it. Today I skied and the snow was cold and dry and at times even powdery. Really good skiing in Maine right now and we have a storm coming mid week...I hope.:thumbsup:

:thumbsup: to JohinCT for taking the time to work hard and avoid a possible disaster.:drink:
 
   / omg more snow #30  
Yep, its been one heck of a snow season here in CT. Stores all sold out of snowblowers, roof rakes, and even snow shovels! Lots of news stories of roofs collapsing. Its getting really dangerous around here.

Just got done with 2 days of shoveling the house roof and raking what I could from the barn roof. Borrowed the neighbors rake... he was lucky enough to catch a new supply come in at ACE hardware a week or so ago. Back breaking work. I was lucky to hire the neighbors teen son to help me or I don't think I would've made it. With another storm predicted for mid week, towns are telling folks to get the snow off the roofs before it hits. Trying to find a contractor to clear the roof is becoming a desperate endevor.

I pray for spring! :)


The Courant the other day had a list of towns and the buildings that collapsed in those towns, it looked like an obituary.
A guy on Craigslist had a roof rake for $500. his ad said "it's cheaper than having your roof cave in" LOL
I'm a contractor that works on roofs, we've been doing roof and ice clearing the last 2 weeks, it's very slow difficult work so you can't do many in a day. Spent all saturday on my own ice dams etc.

There aren't that many capable roofers in good weather even harder to find one in these conditions.

Spring? Looks like it's a long way away.

JB.





Yup...I too have been there and done that. It is absolutely exhausting.

:thumbsup: to JohinCT for taking the time to work hard and avoid a possible disaster.:drink:


Well I'm another John in CT and my upper body has been getting a good work out. So sore I need some Ben Gay





Some pics of my ice problems. The 4 lb hammer I bought for breaking concrete basement floors, needed it for the ice.

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Yep, its been one heck of a snow season here in CT. Stores all sold out of snowblowers, roof rakes, and even snow shovels! Lots of news stories of roofs collapsing. Its getting really dangerous around here.

Just got done with 2 days of shoveling the house roof and raking what I could from the barn roof. Borrowed the neighbors rake... he was lucky enough to catch a new supply come in at ACE hardware a week or so ago. Back breaking work. I was lucky to hire the neighbors teen son to help me or I don't think I would've made it. With another storm predicted for mid week, towns are telling folks to get the snow off the roofs before it hits. Trying to find a contractor to clear the roof is becoming a desperate endevor.

I pray for spring! :)


lol - as I write this at work (in Waterbury) we have 6 laborers on our flat roof shoveling. The roof area is about 70,000 sq ft so they are probably going to be up there a while :(

Have to beat this storm they are forecasting for Wednesday. All that snow up there now will just be a big sponge for any rain / sleet we get.
 
   / omg more snow #32  
lol - as I write this at work (in Waterbury) we have 6 laborers on our flat roof shoveling. The roof area is about 70,000 sq ft so they are probably going to be up there a while :(

Have to beat this storm they are forecasting for Wednesday. All that snow up there now will just be a big sponge for any rain / sleet we get.

Flat roof... I would have hoisted the snowblower up there with the tractor to blow the snow down. I actually made a few calls around to see if I could find one of those light weight electric snowblowers or a small 2 stroke job to bring up to the roof. Man, I was thinking of all kinds of schemes to try to get out of that blasted shoveling!:laughing:

On a more serious note... in the morning briefs at work today found out that one of our coworkers fell through a barn roof and fractured a vertebre. Another decribed a elderly neighbor who fell from a ladder and cut himself really bad she helped control bleeding until EMTs arrived.

It is hard and sometimes dangerous work. Everybody be careful out there:thumbsup:
 
   / omg more snow #33  
I also cleared what I could off of my house and garage roofs this weekend but I'm powerless to do anything effective for the ice dams. I did use a hammer and chisel to cut some groves for the melt water to run off but after the warm up this past weekend, then re-freeze at night, they're all back to solid ice. Even tried a propane torch to remove some of the ice damns, but it was just too slow going. Any pearls of wisdom on removing ice damns? I'm getting worried about backup under the shingles should we get rain, which is predicted for part of this next storm. Pic is before I raked the roof.
 

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Any pearls of wisdom on removing ice damns? I'm getting worried about backup under the shingles should we get rain, which is predicted for part of this next storm. Pic is before I raked the roof.

You need to stop the heat thats melting the snow on the roof, to stop them from forming. It's usually an insulation problem. Sometimes recessed lights in the ceilings cause the melting. Don't know if that's a pearl of wisdom, it's usually the case tho..
 
   / omg more snow #36  
You need to stop the heat thats melting the snow on the roof, to stop them from forming. It's usually an insulation problem. Sometimes recessed lights in the ceilings cause the melting. Don't know if that's a pearl of wisdom, it's usually the case tho..

I kind of figured that having looked at my unheated garage and seeing no ice dams. Worst of it is over my family room with a cathedral ceiling. It's suppose to have about 12" of insulation in the roof, but since there's no attic there's no way to check it. I've been thinking I need to remove the shingles at the lower edge of the roof, install that water and ice membrane, then re-shingle. Not a job I'd look forward to since the roof was re-shingled about 5 years ago. Didn't think to have that done then. Now I'm kicking myself.
 
   / omg more snow #37  
Any pearls of wisdom on removing ice damns?

Someone here suggested putting ice melt on them. That sounded like a good idea to me. If it works on the sidewalk it should work on the roof. :)
 
   / omg more snow #38  
Now I'm kicking myself.

You've got a good pitch on that roof, Chris, (looks like an eight on twelve by the pic) and short overhang, I doubt you'll have any trouble.

Actually after looking again, it doesn't look like you even have any ice damming, just icicles. There's no gutter, right?
 
   / omg more snow #39  
It is hard and sometimes dangerous work. Everybody be careful out there:thumbsup:

I was cleaning roofs all day again today, starting to take chances walking on that little 6" wide level area on top of ice dam. only on 1 and 1 and half story houses, with the idea that you'll only fall 10 ft or so and land in 3-4 feet of soft fluffy snow. Never thinking about the possibility of getting impaled on a tomato stake :eek:


Any pearls of wisdom on removing ice damns? .

Look at that hammer in my prev post, I spent all saturday on mine, solid ice as thick a a street curb. The trick is to not do damage to roof and gutter. You can get it off the roof cleanly with the proper technique, no way to get solid ice out of gutter without doing damage.

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I'm getting worried about backup under the shingles

As long as you open up some areas of the dam (every 2 ft) you shouldn't get any leaks, especially if you haven't had any so far.
My roof has the membrane along the eaves so I had no leaks inside, but the water was getting behind gutter and facia board and some brownish stains on wood shingle siding below. That's what convinced me that I had to remove the dams. Also to rake fresh snow off eaves in the future, you need that fresh snow for the dams to start. In 8 years I never needed to remove snow but now I will.



Someone here suggested putting ice melt on them. That sounded like a good idea to me. If it works on the sidewalk it should work on the roof. :)

I did use some ice melt, doesn't do much to 8 inch thick ice but it does help if you get the ice melt to run under the dam from above/behind it. makes it possible to get a clean release from the roof, but you still gotta pound the ice with extreme prejudice

JB.
 
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Someone here suggested putting ice melt on them. That sounded like a good idea to me. If it works on the sidewalk it should work on the roof. :)

Yup, toss a bunch of salt/icemelt whatever. Once you remove the present problem get some heating tapes up there. Expensive to run but less than the cost of inside water damage. :(
 

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