Why do CUT owners/buyers have low expectations?

[IslandTractor]

My cordless goes all the way to "11":laughing:

Only problem is the drummer keeps dying.

 

[BethesdaEC]

Only problem is the drummer keeps dying.

Why don't you make 10 louder?

Yes, but this one goes to 11!

 

[IslandTractor]

Why don't you make 10 louder?

Yes, but this one goes to 11!

I'll just rise above it as a professional.

 

[Loren49]

Not to degrade my 1940s Farmall A but note that for every "old iron" we see for sale that there is someone getting rid of it.

I still find a number of uses for the "A" - much easier to use in the woods - no bucket, roll bar and shorter turning radius. (plus I'm not as concerned with a branch or debris doing damage) For the heavier pulls I use the Kioti.

Another aspect is the relative complexity of all wheel drive and HST.

Loren

 

[jtheise4]

I believe its human nature to remember only the good things and tend to overshadow the bad. There is no doubt that the tractors of the 40's, 50's, and 60's were incredible machines that helped to feed our nation, but they weren't without their problems. I grew up working with them on my grandparents' farm and they certainly had their qwirks. I'm an engineer in the auto industry and I hear all the time, we don't build them like we used to. To that I say, 'Thank God!'. The vehicles of the past were junk compared to todays cars. Most modern cars can go 100K without any major service. Try doing that in a Pontiac GTO! My point is, we often look at the past with rose colored glasses and not necessarily recall it for what it was.

 

[beppington]

My cordless goes all the way to "11":laughing:

Spinal Tap reference ... :thumbsup:

 

[bigbull338]

in 72 my dad couldve bought a new JD 4240 cab tractor for $12000.run it for 20yrs an sell it for double what we gave for it.

 

[slowzuki]

1) New cut owners aren't always tractor savy.
2) Those high hours, older low maint tractors are not that common, and they didn't get there being parked most of the time. Using one everyday is a lot better service that the typical CUT sitting most of the time. From owning tractors of that era, the typical starter replacements, dirty fuel, clutches lasting only 1000 hrs on a loader tractor etc are more common. Lots of engines lost at 2000-6000 hours, leaking radiators, cracked exhaust manifolds, bad turbos, broken power steering, broken 3 point hitches, messed up powershifts (deere) bad T/A's, messed up front axles from loaders, difficult winter starting, no lights/dash working on most etc etc.
3) I find people new to tractors expect them to be like new cars, and are often mad when you need some knowledge of how to use one.

I can't help but observe that most CUT owners/buyers are very particular in the brand they purchase and the options the want. They also want a good price/value for the dollar spent. Now here is what puzzles me. I normally see the older tractors made in the fifties, sixties, seventies and eighties lasting 5000-10,000 hours before a bolt is ever turned on the engine. A clutch job maybe at 3000-4000 hours (depending on the operator). Brakes R and R at about 5000-7000 hrs. and well you get the picture. Why are CUT enthusiasts so accepting of major tractor problems before the tractor has been broke in good? I think the owners/buyers have let the CUT manufacturers off the hook too easy on shorter life span of their tractors (compared to older tractors). What do you think? Ken Sweet

 

[Rockgod]

Lots of the older JD CUT's may be ok for the long run. The jury is still out on that. From what I can see from being in the business and what I read on the boards, the newer the model CUT, the more premature breakdowns we are having. I feel that the consumer that pays $20,000 for a CUT should expect it to last 50 years, not 10 and dead. Ken Sweet

Until I read this thread my expectations were 40-50 years. I actually thought this would be my final CUT purchase. Talk about a downer

 

[TripleR]

Until I read this thread my expectations were 40-50 years. I actually thought this would be my final CUT purchase. Talk about a downer

It may very well last that long depending on how much, how hard you use it. Most of us don't put near the strain on our tractors that a farmer will.