Becarefull if buying anything with perkins 1104-44t engine
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What kind of problems are they having? That engine is one of the most widely distributed mid size engines in the industry, going in everything from all of CATs backhoes, their telehandlers, some of their ITs, Terex's backhoes, Massy Ferguson tractors, etc. That's a lot of engines.
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Bison
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What's so bad about them?
jlsmith
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Maybe its the operators and not the engine. There are alot of Perkins out there and they are verry strong engines. JMO
Dang, yaw are quick.:laughing:
I was talking with a local mulcher and he had two perkin's engine failures with his ASV's. I was thinking he didn't change the oil, operator abuse, etc. but I saw this thread.
perkins 1104-44t engine failure - TractorByNet.com
I was talking with a local mulcher and he had two perkin's engine failures with his ASV's. I was thinking he didn't change the oil, operator abuse, etc. but I saw this thread.
perkins 1104-44t engine failure - TractorByNet.com
jlsmith
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Yea I just saw that one too. Is it just the ASVs that are having the trouble or is there any other equipment with that engine haveing the same trouble.
Perkins are good engines, I've seen no problems with them in tractors.:thumbsup:
I beleive people are having problems because mulching is very hard on engines in general. The small engine space, the excess heat buildup, dust, running wide open all day, etc. causes a lot of the problems.
I think this is just a small batch of engines having these early failures in ASV's.
Yeap, keeping your mulcher running is hard enough without ASV/Perkins having design problems.
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I keep my equipment maintained to the extreame. We change oil every 150 hours, change air filters weekly, blow out air filters twice daily and blow the radiator out every 4 hours of operation. My machine is also equipped with a clean fix revesable fan. I am the operator!! and it was not anything we did.It is a defective engine that perkins and asv are aware of and are hoping that the volume of engines of this kind that they produce will mask the problems they are having with a certain batch of bad ones. All well and good unless you are trying to make a living and feed your family using one of the bad ones then it "sucks".
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OH COME ON NOW....a few guys have problems with the Perkins so everyone should be careful.
There are MILLIONS and MILLIONS of Perkins engines out there in all sorts of equipment including generators, since 1932.
You know this is what makes the internet dangerous. How about we avoid all engines since almost every engine I'm aware of both gas and diesel have had problems.
What no warning on Ford diesels, we all know how great they were in 2006, how about that beauty GM make and how great the new Duramax was. What no concerns about the overheating Duramax's?
SO if you're going to send up a signal flare about Perkins then follow i=t up about every engine ever made that had issues.
THEN please have every owner of every "bad" Perkins engine prove they did their service per the owners manual with the proper fluids, and kept the engine filters clean and shut the engine off if and when it got hot from abuse and driver error.
I'm not a Perkins cheerleader I just don't like someone crying BAD PRODUCT after reading a few posts of broken engines when a company produce Millions of engines and has sine the 30's.
In 1985 Perkins manufactured their 10 MILLIONTH engine, so do the math. When Perkins failure rate reaches 50.999999% failure rate - I'll be there screaming with you, I'll even join the fight when the failure rate reaches .000001%, but a few, a dozen, a hundred, a thousand nahhhhh.
This just sound like sour grapes to me.
There are MILLIONS and MILLIONS of Perkins engines out there in all sorts of equipment including generators, since 1932.
You know this is what makes the internet dangerous. How about we avoid all engines since almost every engine I'm aware of both gas and diesel have had problems.
What no warning on Ford diesels, we all know how great they were in 2006, how about that beauty GM make and how great the new Duramax was. What no concerns about the overheating Duramax's?
SO if you're going to send up a signal flare about Perkins then follow i=t up about every engine ever made that had issues.
THEN please have every owner of every "bad" Perkins engine prove they did their service per the owners manual with the proper fluids, and kept the engine filters clean and shut the engine off if and when it got hot from abuse and driver error.
I'm not a Perkins cheerleader I just don't like someone crying BAD PRODUCT after reading a few posts of broken engines when a company produce Millions of engines and has sine the 30's.
In 1985 Perkins manufactured their 10 MILLIONTH engine, so do the math. When Perkins failure rate reaches 50.999999% failure rate - I'll be there screaming with you, I'll even join the fight when the failure rate reaches .000001%, but a few, a dozen, a hundred, a thousand nahhhhh.
This just sound like sour grapes to me.
That's why I put this over here, in the land clearing section, telling people who make a living mulching to check if the perkins engine they have or planning to buy is one of the defective ones.:thumbsup:
I know of a few muchlers in my area that have had problems with perkins engines in a ASV. If you read my post all I said was to "becarefull" when buying certain ASV/perkins engines, not all. I'm just trying help my fellow mulchers who pay bills with the money they make from land clearing.
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Specifics?????? Engine serial number ranges, Machine serial number ranges, date of engine manufacture ranges, Tier IV, Tier III, Tier II, date of machine manufacture ranges???????????? How would one know if it's one of "the defective ones"?
What would a prospective customer ask of the ASV dealer, "Hey, this dude on some forum said I should make sure I don't have a defective engine in my machine because he knows of a few mulchers in his area that have had problems".
It's a crime when perkins won't help these people out, when the engine is still under warrenty.
Do you know the specifics of each of these "people's" failures? have you seen the failure reports from the local dealer, from the local Perkins dealer? Are you certain that the engine failed due to a defect from the factory? There is no way that any of the customers wouldn't have run it past the slope recommendations, starved it of oil, not changed the air filter, etc.
I'm not saying that they do have a problem, or they don't have a problem, but it just kills me when this stuff gets posted. I wouldn't have a problem if someone posted specifics such as service notice numbers, or something more specific. Just saying.....
If people would just read what been said.
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