Future Price of Diesel

[Steve_Miller]

As of this morning $1.239/liter

4.54 liters X $1.239/liter = $5.62506 Imperial Gallon Canadian dollars
3.78 liters X $1.239/liter = $4.68342 American Gallon Canadian dollars

About $23 to fill my 19 liter tractor jug

Steve

 

[AKfish]

I think there's oil up here in Alaska... It's $4.06.9 at the pump right now for diesel. Been over $4 for some time now. $3.91.9 for unlead gas.

There's a refinery 60 miles from my house that processes 85,000 barrels per day of crude.

Makes NO sense to me that the price for refined products should be the highest in the US!! :thumbdown:

State tax is only $0.08 per gallon and the Federal tax is the same as the rest of the country - I think...

Not much of a sticker shock when I drive thru Canada, though.

AKfish

 

[crazyal]

3*Since the switch over from LSD to ULSD there is now no difference between home heating oil and diesel in most areas.

Last spring when I filled up my 275 gallon tanks with HHO I asked them to fill up a 55 gallon drum and top off the dozer. The driver told me that by law he couldn't sell me HHO if he knew it was going into equipment. Since he had off road diesel on the truck he switch hoses and filled up the dozer and drum. I was told that since they have gone to ultra low sulfur off road diesel they have to add a lubricant so it was better to use off road Diesel over HHO.

What I was told is that in October of 2007 it became illegal for sellers of HHO to knowingly sell it for use in off road vehicles (any diesel engine that moves at least once a year, no matter how, qualifies as a vehicle). The intent was that only fuels with less than 500 ppm of sulfur could be used in off road vehicles. The dealers were unclear if the law said only HHO of 500 or more or if it just said HHO. So to be safe and the fact that HHO doesn't need the lubricant they sell it as two different products.

Turns out the trucks they use have two tanks in them. One for HHO and the other alternates between Kerosene and off road diesel. They have to flush the tank when making the swap so they only deliver Kerosene one day a week.

In the winter the trucks can't make it up my driveway and I needed some off road diesel so last month I picked up 55 gallons from a different company. The one I usually dealt with didn't want to mess with me bringing them a 55 gallon drum to fill. So I again asked and was told the same thing. Now it could be a Vermont thing or a national thing, I don't know.

 

[clemsonfor]

Last spring when I filled up my 275 gallon tanks with HHO I asked them to fill up a 55 gallon drum and top off the dozer. The driver told me that by law he couldn't sell me HHO if he knew it was going into equipment. Since he had off road diesel on the truck he switch hoses and filled up the dozer and drum. I was told that since they have gone to ultra low sulfur off road diesel they have to add a lubricant so it was better to use off road Diesel over HHO.

What I was told is that in October of 2007 it became illegal for sellers of HHO to knowingly sell it for use in off road vehicles (any diesel engine that moves at least once a year, no matter how, qualifies as a vehicle). The intent was that only fuels with less than 500 ppm of sulfur could be used in off road vehicles. The dealers were unclear if the law said only HHO of 500 or more or if it just said HHO. So to be safe and the fact that HHO doesn't need the lubricant they sell it as two different products.

Turns out the trucks they use have two tanks in them. One for HHO and the other alternates between Kerosene and off road diesel. They have to flush the tank when making the swap so they only deliver Kerosene one day a week.

In the winter the trucks can't make it up my driveway and I needed some off road diesel so last month I picked up 55 gallons from a different company. The one I usually dealt with didn't want to mess with me bringing them a 55 gallon drum to fill. So I again asked and was told the same thing. Now it could be a Vermont thing or a national thing, I don't know.

This last fall they had no trouble selling me HHO in my barrel knowing some of it was going into my tractor. just throwing that in.

 

[LBrown59]

1*Last spring when I filled up my 275 gallon tanks with HHO I asked them to fill up a 55 gallon drum and top off the dozer.
2*The driver told me that by law he couldn't sell me HHO if he knew it was going into equipment.
3*Since he had off road diesel on the truck he switched hoses and filled up the dozer and drum.
4* I was told that since they have gone to ultra low sulfur off road diesel they have to add a lubricant so it was better to use off road Diesel over HHO.
5*What I was told is that in October of 2007 it became illegal for sellers of HHO to knowingly sell it for use in off road vehicles (any diesel engine that moves at least once a year, no matter how, qualifies as a vehicle).
6*The intent was that only fuels with less than 500 ppm of sulfur could be used in off road vehicles.
7*The dealers were unclear if the law said only HHO of 500 or more or if it just said HHO.
8*So to be safe and the fact that HHO doesn't need the lubricant they sell it as two different products.
9*Turns out the trucks they use have two tanks in them.
One for HHO and the other alternates between Kerosene and off road diesel.
10*They have to flush the tank when making the swap so they only deliver Kerosene one day a week.
In the winter the trucks can't make it up my driveway and I needed some off road diesel so last month I picked up 55 gallons from a different company. The one I usually dealt with didn't want to mess with me bringing them a 55 gallon drum to fill. So I again asked and was told the same thing.
11* Now it could be a Vermont thing or a national thing, I don't know.

1&2*You should not have told him where it is going so he wouldn't know.
3*Probably the same thing he'd just put in your 275 gallon tanks.
4*We only have 1 fuel here for Heating homes and Running tractors and highway vehicles .
It's called ULSD.
It's dyed red for everying except the highway vehicles.
5*I don't think the legislators nor the fuel dealers in your state really know what the real story is because they all have each other so confused that nobody knows what's going on .
6*-7*Since that period in time {2007} these 2 points have been addressed by switching 95 percent of production to ULSD.
8*-10* This wouldn't make sense where there is only 1 fuel like we have here.
11* Looks like a V thing from here.

12*This last fall they had no trouble selling me HHO in my barrel knowing some of it was going into my tractor. just throwing that in.

12*Why should they when it's all the same?

 

[melonhawg]

Everybody talking about more taxes, but about ExxonMobil? They continue to make record profits.

I wonder how much it would cost if ExxonMobil giant was out of the picture?

 

[Reg]

Very soon, I anticipate buying some type diesel storage tank for bulk diesel. Right now, off-road diesel in my town costs $3.05 per gallon. I know none of us have a crystal ball, but I was wondering if anyone has some valid information on what the price of diesel may do over the next month or two.

I read somewhere that the price of diesel is normally lowest this time of the year. I just want the best price possible when I buy in bulk. :thumbsup:

Thanks

If "this time of year" means toward the end of the heating (with oil) season, then maybe.
Heating oil and diesel fuel are similar enough that they compete for base stock.
At the end of the oil heating season there may be some surpluses - though I wouldn't count on it.

You probably need to do ALL the arithmetic on this; cost of tank, installation, permits, maintenance, treatments against algae, your actual consumption, etc.
If the price is really seasonal where YOU live it might be worth it.
Against the general trend (UPWARDS) your net savings COULD be negative.

 

[Duffster]

Everybody talking about more taxes, but about ExxonMobil? They continue to make record profits.

I wonder how much it would cost if ExxonMobil giant was out of the picture?

Do you know how much taxes ExxonMobil pays?

 

[Don87]

Do you know how much taxes ExxonMobil pays?

They pay zero.

Consumers pay the tax in the form of higher prices.

 

[Duffster]

They pay zero.

Consumers pay the tax.

That is a dumb argument.

Did your employer, or it's customers, pay for your house?