Test drove 2011 F450 supercab
- Thread starter davygp38
- Start date
- Views: 2877
75H2
Silver Member
You have got to work on your negotiation skills a little. Should have told her you were looking at a class 8 truck. Compromise could have been a F450. Always ask for more that you really want. That way your fall back position is where you wanted to be anyway. Woman have this manipulation thing down to a science, they were born with it, it's in there genes. We men have to unite.......
Gotta go, wife is calling, I have to get back to the ironing
Gotta go, wife is calling, I have to get back to the ironing
Diamondpilot
Super Star Member
- Joined
- Jan 18, 2007
- Messages
- 16,316
- Location
- Daleville, IN
- Tractor
- Jinma 254/284 Ford 861 Powermaster at work
"Now that is funny.:laughing: I don't care who you are...."
Quote via Larry The Cable Guy.
Chris
Hey Chris,
If we don't know that the cable guy said that then we wouldn't know who the cable guy is anyway. :laughing:
kf4uda
Veteran Member
- Joined
- Apr 27, 2009
- Messages
- 1,544
- Location
- Middle TN
- Tractor
- NH TD5030, 861 Ford Powermaster, CaseIH Farmall 35A, 555A Ford Backhoe, S150x SnapperPro ZTR, Polaris Ranger XP800
Man I thought you guys were speaking in code or something with the Urea and DEF. I googled it and found out what it was. I have never had a diesel but am actually looking for a used F450 diesel. When did they start requiring the use of this stuff?
OP
davygp38
Gold Member
Oh man, are you saying I'm hen pecked? Got to make wifey happy. I am amazed she knew the 450 chassis was considered commercial. She lets me do what I want for the most part, and push comes to shove I can do what I want, and I have my wifes permission to say so.
Diamondpilot
Super Star Member
- Joined
- Jan 18, 2007
- Messages
- 16,316
- Location
- Daleville, IN
- Tractor
- Jinma 254/284 Ford 861 Powermaster at work
Good point. I figured that some of the members would give me crap for using someones saying without credit given.
Chris
Diamondpilot
Super Star Member
- Joined
- Jan 18, 2007
- Messages
- 16,316
- Location
- Daleville, IN
- Tractor
- Jinma 254/284 Ford 861 Powermaster at work
This stuff was all implemented in late 2007. The first wave was DPF. The next wave came in 2010 DEF.
Chris
dieselscout80
Veteran Member
So the late 2007's, 2008 and 2009 diesels do not have DEF?
Diamondpilot
Super Star Member
- Joined
- Jan 18, 2007
- Messages
- 16,316
- Location
- Daleville, IN
- Tractor
- Jinma 254/284 Ford 861 Powermaster at work
Lets make sure we are talking about the same thing here.
In late 07 all diesel trucks had to run cleaner per the EPA. The way they did this was to put in a DPF. Diesel particulate filter. It went into the exhaust in a nut shell caught soot. As it got dirty it use a special injector in the exhaust stream to inject diesel fuel to burn it clean. This killed economy. Trucks went from getting nearly 20 mpg to 14 mpg in some cases.
What Ford and GM did next to meet the next round of emulsions requirements was to get rid of the diesel injection to clean up the DPF and they now used DEF. Diesel exhaust fluid (urea). This along with other improvements got the economy back up to pre 07 standards and maybe even a little better. Dodge did not go this route. The DPF system they had meet the new emmisons standards so they stuck with the old way of injecting diesel fuel to do the cleaning. This will probably change here in the near future as they make improvements to the engine.
Hope this helps.
Chris