Clarify "commercial use" in Illinois

[KB9UDE]

I know a guy in my area (ILLINOIS) that has a large box truck full of equipment he uses for a side business. His business name is all over the truck but also he has "NOT FOR HIRE" on the side. He claims since he only hauls his own equipment he does not need a CDL?? Is this correct and would this apply if he hauls a 14K trailer behind the truck??

Thanks

 

[Duffster]

I know a guy in my area (ILLINOIS) that has a large box truck full of equipment he uses for a side business. His business name is all over the truck but also he has "NOT FOR HIRE" on the side. He claims since he only hauls his own equipment he does not need a CDL?? Is this correct and would this apply if he hauls a 14K trailer behind the truck??

Thanks

Having his name on it, or having not for hire on it has nothing to do with it.

I would guess that the truck has a GVWR of 26k or less which doesn't require a CDL. With that truck he could to up to a 10k GVWR trailer without a CDL.

If the truck has a GVWR of 16k or more then any trailer over 10k will put him into a class A CDL territory.

Basically a 14k trailer will need a CDL with anything larger than 12k GVWR towing it.

 

[kevinj]

I know a guy in my area (ILLINOIS) that has a large box truck full of equipment he uses for a side business. His business name is all over the truck but also he has "NOT FOR HIRE" on the side. He claims since he only hauls his own equipment he does not need a CDL?? Is this correct and would this apply if he hauls a 14K trailer behind the truck??

Thanks

There is an exemption for "service vehicles". It seems to be a gray area for us since we are a service company. It seems that if you haul a sale-able part that you may not be exempt but are exempt for a tool hauler only. We have not gotten a clear interpretation yet.

 

[Duffster]

There is an exemption for "service vehicles".

That is interesting. I have never seen a exemption like that before. Is that for MI only or for everyone? Would you happen to have a link to the MI stat where that is stated?

 

[kevinj]

That is interesting. I have never seen a exemption like that before. Is that for MI only or for everyone? Would you happen to have a link to the MI stat where that is stated?

I found it in the rules a couple years back. i may have it at work yet. We worked with an outside compliance company for our initial setup and they said it was gray area and advised that we just be compliant since many items would void the exemption

 

[kevinj]

That is interesting. I have never seen a exemption like that before. Is that for MI only or for everyone? Would you happen to have a link to the MI stat where that is stated?

Found it!!!

It is a MI only thing to exempt a service tech from the chauffeur license for 10k to 26k here in MI

 

[schoolsout]

I believe as long as the GCWR is 26k or less, no matter the weight of trailer, you don't need CDL



http://www.aamva.org/NR/rdonlyres/4B7E58B8-85EB-46D8-B541-7211DF16F750/0/CDLFlowchart.pdf

 

[kevinj]

I believe as long as the GCWR is 26k or less, no matter the weight of trailer, you don't need CDL



http://www.aamva.org/NR/rdonlyres/4B7E58B8-85EB-46D8-B541-7211DF16F750/0/CDLFlowchart.pdf

I did not say a CDL was needed, MI REQUIRES a chauffeur for 10k to 26k, NOT A CDL

 

[schoolsout]

I was reinforcing what Duffster said with a pretty picture to look at

 

[schoolsout]

And actually, from what I've been told (one of those where you ask 5 people you get 4 different answers) as I sell commercial vehicles for a living, as long as the main purpose of the truck isn't to pull a trailer, i.e. a tractor set up, you can tow up to 33k GCWR without CDL (tow vehicle must still be 26k or less, though)

Basically, a 26k GVWR straight truck (flatbed, dump, etc) can tow a 7k trailer to reach 33k and not need CDL.

I've called SC State Transport Police and the local weighstation for clarification and that is what they've told me.