$3.37 Gas & $3.58 Diesel - Thrilled.

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   / $3.37 Gas & $3.58 Diesel - Thrilled. #331  
New Oil Math! $107 = 4.23 a gallon 2011? 2008= $147 = 4.17 a gallon?

If you want to see real math take a look at oil company profits.

It's a Capitalistic world and it's coming around to kick us in the butt.
 
   / $3.37 Gas & $3.58 Diesel - Thrilled. #332  
It all boils down to productivity. High wages can be supported only by high productivity. If our country keeps exporting not only jobs but also know how we will be screwed. There is not way around. There was a time when unions were fighting robots because they took jobs. GM closed one factory and Toyota opened one. Japanese robots caused unemployment in the US.
It was a big miscalculation. Work hard is not good enough anymore.
Technologically most advanced country will rule the world.
Would it help if engineering schools were free and the law school were ten times as expensive.

The US develops new technologies and teaches foreigners how it all works. China is the world's largest manufacture of Photo Voltaic Cells. O'bozo wants to go photo voltaic, who gets the jobs? The only jobs will be installation and that is because no one has figured out how to ship your house to china.

NJ and other states want to privatize Toll roads to reduce coats, that all sounds ok if it is not your job. Replace a $65k toll collector with one at $25k, now that person no longer pays income tax, needs help from the government to get buy. Ever notice that the people proposing all these cost savings never have to bite the bullet? Workers need to make a living wage.
 
   / $3.37 Gas & $3.58 Diesel - Thrilled. #333  
Diesel was $4.49 at my local Chevron a couple weeks ago and now it's down to $4.39. Things are looking up! :laughing:

Rob D is spot on: Until we collectively realize that living thirty miles from work and driving our large vehicle getting mileage in the teens then we are not going to recover. I recently read a Fox News report that about half of all gas profits go overseas. So half of all that extra money you are paying at the pump goes to someone else's economy, not ours. That is money you will not be purchasing goods with here.

Americans need to wake up and realize the best thing we can do is get a least one fuel efficient vehicle and use others only when necessary. Make a commitment to living as close to work as possible and limiting trips to town.

I have a four year-old diesel HD pickup with 22,000 miles. I use it to haul horses and cargo, little else. My four-banger Civic is the Go-To ride. I have a take home company vehicle and my wife's commute is four miles. I'm not as set up as Rob but someday I would like to be.

Am I lucky? Sure! But I've also planned it this way and made the necessary sacrifices. I would rather drive the pickup any day, but it's just not wise most of the time.

We will see $8 a gallon in the not too distant future. We are not even close to rock bottom yet. Have a plan or start working on one! :thumbsup:
 
   / $3.37 Gas & $3.58 Diesel - Thrilled. #334  
Everyone has hobbies or interests. His hobby does not necessarily invalidate any complaints he might have. The price of gas (or rather, the devaluation of the dollar) affects him just as it does the rest of us.

It sure does, you can't complain about the price of fuel when you're 'hobby' is driving something that gets 8 mpg anymore than you can complain about emphysema when your 'hobby' is chain smoking.

His actions, just like ours, directly affect the planet and the rest of us along with future generations, we have to understand that the planet is in a constant state of symbiosis. We're all dependent upon each other and every living thing.
We lose the bees, which are now in trouble, and we get no pollination and a big drop in food.
No insects = no aeration of the soil = no means of decay = no new growth, birds, no us, etc . There's no free lunch.

Einstein said if we lose the bees we'll all be gone in a few years.

Rob
 
   / $3.37 Gas & $3.58 Diesel - Thrilled. #335  
Diesel was $4.49 at my local Chevron a couple weeks ago and now it's down to $4.39. Things are looking up! :laughing:

Rob D is spot on: Until we collectively realize that living thirty miles from work and driving our large vehicle getting mileage in the teens then we are not going to recover. I recently read a Fox News report that about half of all gas profits go overseas. So half of all that extra money you are paying at the pump goes to someone else's economy, not ours. That is money you will not be purchasing goods with here.

Americans need to wake up and realize the best thing we can do is get a least one fuel efficient vehicle and use others only when necessary. Make a commitment to living as close to work as possible and limiting trips to town.

I have a four year-old diesel HD pickup with 22,000 miles. I use it to haul horses and cargo, little else. My four-banger Civic is the Go-To ride. I have a take home company vehicle and my wife's commute is four miles. I'm not as set up as Rob but someday I would like to be.

Am I lucky? Sure! But I've also planned it this way and made the necessary sacrifices. I would rather drive the pickup any day, but it's just not wise most of the time.

We will see $8 a gallon in the not too distant future. We are not even close to rock bottom yet. Have a plan or start working on one! :thumbsup:

Ditto!

We have an old Ford F150 and we use it just like you do, work only. Good start!
Rob
 
   / $3.37 Gas & $3.58 Diesel - Thrilled. #336  
I plan on burning ~170 gallons of diesel tomorrow to catch a few fish...

By the way, about those oil profits...it's not because of huge margins.
 
   / $3.37 Gas & $3.58 Diesel - Thrilled. #337  
"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity... I'm not sure about the universe."
Albert Einstein
 
   / $3.37 Gas & $3.58 Diesel - Thrilled. #338  
the price of fuel is directly related to the strength of the US Dollar.
 
   / $3.37 Gas & $3.58 Diesel - Thrilled. #339  
the price of fuel is directly related to the strength of the US Dollar.

Good luck.

"Facts are useless, they can be used to prove almost anything that is even remotely true." Homer Simpson
 
   / $3.37 Gas & $3.58 Diesel - Thrilled. #340  
the price of fuel is directly related to the strength of the US Dollar.

Money? I know elderly people who can't afford to keep their heat above 55F. You think high oil prices are helping them?

You think oil is helping the planet and future generations? I know it's helping the wealthy oil trader I went to high school with.
Is that what you think your doing when you burn 170 gallons to "catch a couple of fish", keeping the dollar strong?

Man has funny way of thinking, he always finds a way to justify his personal actions regardless how dismissive of and destructive to his fellow man those actions are.

R
 
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