$3.37 Gas & $3.58 Diesel - Thrilled.
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Don87
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Ya know.............I'm not going to play games. This is too important!
If you want to keep your head in the sand............and look over the obvious things that your father told you to watch out for, thats your perogative.
But I myself (and probably others) would appreciate it if you bring actual facts to the table.
Don87
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And as I said before...........schedule your trip to the Gulf of Mexico...............and document the 'devastastion' that you said is there.
When you can provide that proof, we'll listen.
Investigate your news sources............they are 'forming your opinion' as I said earlier!
There are two types of people in this world..............
Those that believe what they are told.............and those who search for the truth.............
Don87
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Just for you Chuck............Microbes ate BP oil deep-water plume: study | Reuters :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
dave1949
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I don't get the feeling that many people are seriously trying to conserve yet. High mpg cars are selling better lately and people are cutting back on driving, other than that it seems like business as usual.
Around my area, the biggest energy error is to keep on building homes that do not use solar or wood as a primary heating method. We can get by without AC luckily.
It doesn't really matter how much domestic fossil fuel is present in the US for two reasons:
Our production will go to the highest global bidder and be sold at what the market will bear - unless we are willing to nationalize oil and natural gas companies - which I doubt.
We cannot environmentally afford to burn unlimited fossil fuels without capturing and sequestering the CO2 emissions. There will still be too much damage done by the extraction of those fuels.
I agree with Scotty 370 that gas is the lesser of fossil fuel evils at least, if done carefully.
One good thing about wind and solar, it is impossible to manipulate the supply through regulation, global-politics or commodity markets.
Dave.
Around my area, the biggest energy error is to keep on building homes that do not use solar or wood as a primary heating method. We can get by without AC luckily.
It doesn't really matter how much domestic fossil fuel is present in the US for two reasons:
Our production will go to the highest global bidder and be sold at what the market will bear - unless we are willing to nationalize oil and natural gas companies - which I doubt.
We cannot environmentally afford to burn unlimited fossil fuels without capturing and sequestering the CO2 emissions. There will still be too much damage done by the extraction of those fuels.
I agree with Scotty 370 that gas is the lesser of fossil fuel evils at least, if done carefully.
One good thing about wind and solar, it is impossible to manipulate the supply through regulation, global-politics or commodity markets.
Dave.
Don87
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I'm really peeved right now, and I apologize to anyone that is not really following this closely.
But it really gets to me when someone who is 2500 milies away, tries to say what's happening somewhere..........when they ain't got the faintest clue.
And I gotta waste my friggin time showing them what they coulda found out for themselves with a few simple clicks of the mouse!
But it really gets to me when someone who is 2500 milies away, tries to say what's happening somewhere..........when they ain't got the faintest clue.
And I gotta waste my friggin time showing them what they coulda found out for themselves with a few simple clicks of the mouse!
Don87
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More oil on the market means lower prices..................especially oil from stable countries.
You've heard it yourself............even on the 'unreliable
news sources.........prices are up because of instability in the middle east.
dave1949
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So, how extensive is the oil contamination of the salt water marshes? I just watched a news report that clearly showed oil residue on those areas and in the muck.
It isn't logical to believe the microbes cleaned up all the oil or that anyone knows how the dispersal chemical science experiment is going to work out long term.
Recent surveys, newer than last August, show there is still oil on the bottom in the well area. Unless you are in the business or have a submersible capable of 1 mile deep operation, how do you know?
Dave.
dave1949
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We cannot put enough oil into the global market from domestic production to swing the price by much. Even if we could, it is a bad idea environmentally.
Dave.
Don87
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More Al gore myth..................CO2 is plant food.............most of the older generation learned this in the 4th grade.
Please study a little.
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