Dump Trailer: Single lift vs Double lift

[sunshine coaster]

Hi Guys,
I have a 5x10 dump trailer, had it since 96 and it has a three stage front cylinder that tips if to over 50 degrees I bet, enough that nothing stays in the trailer.
The cylinder has had zero maintenance since I got it and still looks like new.
This has to be the best way to lift a trailer IMO as its a single lifting point right at the front middle where there is the least amount of resistance from the load...

Having had this trailer work flawlessly for all those years I would not consider purchasing a trailer with any other style of lifting/tipping method.

 

[JB4310]

I ended up buying a Premier 6 x 12 (10,000), dump a few years ago. It has a single cylinder lift. If the load is full, filled to the front, it has problems lifting the first few inches. Have considered installing a short lift cylinder on the front of the trailer frame (10 or so inches in height), and plumb parallel with the main cylinder. During operation, the short cylinder would start the lift and top out, sending the fluid to the main cylinder and continue the lift. I have had situations where I need to carry a piece of 2" pipe to assist the begining of the lift. Installed a 1000 CCA battery to be able to dump more often.

Wow 12 ft and single cylinder, the 12 foot trailers i looked at all had twin cylinders. Even with my 10 footer I've had to shovel material to the rear to get it to start dumping, if it was loaded to far forward.

Hi Guys,
I have a 5x10 dump trailer, had it since 96 and it has a three stage front cylinder that tips if to over 50 degrees I bet, enough that nothing stays in the trailer.
The cylinder has had zero maintenance since I got it and still looks like new.
This has to be the best way to lift a trailer IMO as its a single lifting point right at the front middle where there is the least amount of resistance from the load...

Having had this trailer work flawlessly for all those years I would not consider purchasing a trailer with any other style of lifting/tipping method.

I've never seen that type of cylinder on a dump trailer, except the big big scissor dumps pulled by a 10 wheel tractor.

I imagine that would be an expensive cylinder.

JB

 

[SLHawkins]

**I am a little concerned now regarding battery life with these units from other posts I recently read**

Search some of the other posts on here for solutions to the battery problem. I got a power cable from warn winch that and ran a quick disconnect to the rear of my truck from the battery under the hood. Doing that also allowed me to use one of the upfitter switches as an on/off switch. I was also able to run jumper cables from the connection. When I get rid of my '06 F350, I left everything connected. I am going to put the same set-up on my '12 F450. It proofed to be a very useful/versatile setup.

Hawk

 

[Ursa Major]

This is great information that's been presented here. Thank you all very much for the replies.

Probably going to stick with my first idea and get a hydraulic dump trailer for the infrequent use I intend with it.

I'll keep you posted as to my purchase.

 

[Orange 08]

I hesitate to mention it because of the arguments it starts but a 14,000 pound trailer will require a class A license. I know this is true in California and it seems all states are similar.

When I bought mine the dealer gave me the option to license it as a 10,000 pound to get around this requirement. It sounded like I could do that by having the factory list it as a 10.000 for registration.

 

[Dmace]

I hesitate to mention it because of the arguments it starts but a 14,000 pound trailer will require a class A license. I know this is true in California and it seems all states are similar.

When I bought mine the dealer gave me the option to license it as a 10,000 pound to get around this requirement. It sounded like I could do that by having the factory list it as a 10.000 for registration.

This is only true if the truck your towing it with also has a GVWR of 12,000lbs or more. Many people don't get the 10k lb trailer limit is only IF your combined GVWR of truck and trailer is 26,001 or more. For instance, I could tow a 14k trailer with my old dump truck rated at 11k GVWR but my buddies dump truck rated at 13k would put the total over 26k requiring a CDL license.

 

[Diamondpilot]

This is only true if the truck your towing it with also has a GVWR of 12,000lbs or more. Many people don't get the 10k lb trailer limit is only IF your combined GVWR of truck and trailer is 26,001 or more. For instance, I could tow a 14k trailer with my old dump truck rated at 11k GVWR but my buddies dump truck rated at 13k would put the total over 26k requiring a CDL license.

And again, its only for commercial. Here in Indiana there are RV and boat exemptions. Also exemptions for personal property. What is funny is they let this slide. I pull a 25,000# GVWR trailer 2 times a year and go though all the hoops and hurdles to get a wide load permit, 13' wide. I pull it with my F-350 which has a GVWR of 11,500# and not one issue in 7 years and about 70 miles each year. But dont get caught pulling a ZTR on a landscape trailer behind a 1/2 ton without DOT#, ect. Crazy what they are strict on and what they let go.

Chris

 

[Ursa Major]

I hesitate to mention it because of the arguments it starts but a 14,000 pound trailer will require a class A license. I know this is true in California and it seems all states are similar.

When I bought mine the dealer gave me the option to license it as a 10,000 pound to get around this requirement. It sounded like I could do that by having the factory list it as a 10.000 for registration.

I'm sure you wouldn't have done such a naughty and illegal thing now, wouldn't you?

 

[CurlyDave]

I had it even better. I bought a 10,000lb. gross weight dump trailer.

The Oregon DMV let me register it for whatever weight I wanted. If I registered it for 10k, I would need special plates for my truck, which would cost ~$250 per quarter.

OTOH, if I registered it as 8000 lb, I needed only my regular plates for the truck and the trailer was $90 for four years. The only problem is there is a hefty fine for going over 8k on the trailer if I get caught.

I chose the 8k registration because my truck only rates to tow 7200 lb.

 

[Dmace]

I had it even better. I bought a 10,000lb. gross weight dump trailer.

The Oregon DMV let me register it for whatever weight I wanted. If I registered it for 10k, I would need special plates for my truck, which would cost ~$250 per quarter.

OTOH, if I registered it as 8000 lb, I needed only my regular plates for the truck and the trailer was $90 for four years. The only problem is there is a hefty fine for going over 8k on the trailer if I get caught.

I chose the 8k registration because my truck only rates to tow 7200 lb.

Same here, my dump trailer is rated at 10k but registered for 9,990 lbs. Around here 10k and higher means more registration money and an annual inspection like a car which cost $45.