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[nckennedy]

Yea, you are right we are doing mabye 20 acres a year, so no use of over burdening an nice tractor. Oh , it was a loader on it so we shouldn 't have any problems with the front end, but we will need some weight in the rear tires. probably some bolt on weights.
nckennedy
Oh just found a 1000 JD moldboard 3 by 16" category 2 I assume. Looks nice but there is not guage wheel on it. is that a problem?

 

[downslope]

Yea, you are right we are doing mabye 20 acres a year, so no use of over burdening an nice tractor. Oh , it was a loader on it so we shouldn 't have any problems with the front end, but we will need some weight in the rear tires. probably some bolt on weights.
nckennedy
Oh just found a 1000 JD moldboard 3 by 16" category 2 I assume. Looks nice but there is not guage wheel on it. is that a problem?

Personally I don't like plowing with the loader on, it cuts down on maneuverability near fences/treelines and if you raise it up the tractor is less stable.

I'm surprised you get by using the loader without rear weight. I have over 750# liquid in each of the rear tires and it is still too light when lifting maximum loads. Like I said, try pulling the plow without the FWD and if the rear wheels just spin then you know most of the pulling is being done by the front end, whcih is not what you want.

As far as the gauge wheel, you don't need one on a 3x16". I assume you're talking about a true gauge wheel and not the tail wheel behind the last bottom.

 

[nckennedy]

No I just got the tractor and have not tried it out in plowing. Thats why we are assuming to purchase some wheel weights. Yes I not what you mean by a loader getting away along the hege roads.
Well, the one I am looking at dosn't have any wheel on it as far as I can see. Not even a tail wheel. Don't you need the tail wheel to help make a level cut?
nckennedy

 

[downslope]

No I just got the tractor and have not tried it out in plowing. Thats why we are assuming to purchase some wheel weights. Yes I not what you mean by a loader getting away along the hege roads.
Well, the one I am looking at dosn't have any wheel on it as far as I can see. Not even a tail wheel. Don't you need the tail wheel to help make a level cut?
nckennedy

You don't really need the tail wheel but it's nice to have. It's supposed to run along the furrow wall and take up some of the side forces. Some plows just have a longer landside on the last bottom. The tail wheel fell off of an IH plow I have and I never put it back on or noticed a difference.

 

[cowski]

for 20 acres i would leave the loader on .the tractor should be weighted 40% on the front and 60% on the back. i think deere recommends 2 wheel weights per side. if you have problems with the front end staying on the ground ,scoop a load of dirt up with the loader.guage wheel sure makes it easier. on a 2 or 3 bottom i guess you could get by without it.yes you can add one on later.

 

[Verticaltrx]

Our 1600 doesn't have a gauge wheel, a large majority of them didn't. About all it does is lighten the draft some and keep the plow more consistent if you are running in very soft soil. I've plowed in everything from very sandy loam to tough yellow clay and once adjusted properly it works great.

Aside from the proper ballast, you'll have to set your tread width to the right specs. I'm not sure what that is off the top of my head, but it will say in the plow manual or someone can look it up for you. The center-line to inside of tire dimension is what is critical. The 2550 we use has rack-and-pinion axles and 15.5-38 rear tires which is really designed for plowing and row crop use. These new tractors with short, wide tires and limited tread settings weren't really built with moldboard plowing in mind. With that said, I assume the 5000 series tractors that use dish type wheels have a setting that would be close.

Be sure to post some pics if you get one.

 

[nckennedy]

Ok thanks, I was wondering how many weights were needed for the rear wheels.
Thanks for your help.
nckennedy

 

[Barry Bowen]

Maybe I missed it, does your tractor have radials or bias?

 

[nckennedy]

There radials. Which means there are no tubes?

 

[Verticaltrx]

Ok thanks, I was wondering how many weights were needed for the rear wheels.
Thanks for your help.
nckennedy

That is something you'll probably have to do some trial and error to figure out. You want some amount of wheel slip as you are plowing, no wheel slip means you are weighted too heavy and it is hard on the transmission and drivetrain.

Our 2550 has about 500lbs of weight on each rear wheel, plus cast wheels, and fluid filled 15.5-38's.