Air tools rant

[deereman75]

You might be able to find a used baldor somewhere, or you could build a phase converter with a 10 hp 3 phase motor, just googe rotery phase converter.

 

[5030]

Been around machine shops all my life. We usually have scroll or rotary vane models. Although I've seen some IRand duds, we have one at current job that just got rebuilt with a tad over 55,000 hours. the rebuilt scroll alone was over $7000 installed. This is a 30 hp model. Run it at 125 psi.

My all time favorite is Kaeser. We had 2, 25 hp models at one shop, each with over 25,000 hours and almost never had any problems.

Another favorite is Hydrovane. Although these run at a lower 105 psi setting. I think we had 32,000 hours on the one we bought used at an auction.

Quincy builds good stuff as well as others. You just have to ante up to get into this arena. It all can be worked out into a cost per cfm at your needed psi dollar figure. If you don't need much air, you don't need one of these.

PS, I come home to a small little "buzz" model that annoys the H outta me.:laughing:

I have an oldie but goodie 5hp 3 phase speedaire but no 3 phase here at the house.

If I'm not mistaken, a Speedaire is a rebadged Saylor-Beal, but it could be a Quincy or even a Champion. They all supplied compressor heads to Speedaire. It's easy to tell. Saylor Beal's have many cooling fins closely spaced (like a motorcycle engine) and Quincy has external vave pots with unloader lines attached. Chanpoin has less fins and an aluminum head with a low side to high side finned intercooler and a bulge at the outboard end of the crank where the unloader fits.

I'd look at local auctions and salvage yards for a true 5/1/220. So long as the nameplate amperage draw is in the 25-27 amp range it's a 5 and not a 3 on steroids.

My Quincy has a Century with honest to gosh grease fittings on the armature end housings.

It's very easy to get an offshore copy of a Saylor Beal, Champin or Quincy now. The Chi-com's have copied them all.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

If I'm not mistaken, a Speedaire is a rebadged Saylor-Beal, but it could be a Quincy or even a Champion. They all supplied compressor heads to Speedaire. It's easy to tell. Saylor Beal's have many cooling fins closely spaced (like a motorcycle engine) and Quincy has external vave pots with unloader lines attached. Chanpoin has less fins and an aluminum head with a low side to high side finned intercooler and a bulge at the outboard end of the crank where the unloader fits.

I'd look at local auctions and salvage yards for a true 5/1/220. So long as the nameplate amperage draw is in the 25-27 amp range it's a 5 and not a 3 on steroids.

My Quincy has a Century with honest to gosh grease fittings on the armature end housings.

It's very easy to get an offshore copy of a Saylor Beal, Champin or Quincy now. The Chi-com's have copied them all.

It must be the Saylor Beal.....Thanks!
Now if I could just find a nice used motor. I might check a couple of local electric engine shops.

 

[bindian]

It must be the Saylor Beal.....Thanks!
Now if I could just find a nice used motor. I might check a couple of local electric engine shops.

Kyle,
I have heard jet engines called "motors", so is this what an electric engine shop works on?:laughing::laughing:
hugs, Brandi

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Kyle,
I have heard jet engines called "motors", so is this what an electric engine shop works on?:laughing::laughing:
hugs, Brandi

I would love a jet engined anything as long as I have someone else to pay the fuel bill.

 

[Bird]

Kyle, I think Brandi was ribbing you about using the term "electric engine" instead of "electric motor". I'm not sure who it was who originally determined, and don't remember reading why he/she determined, that we have electric "motors" but gasoline/diesel/jet fuel "engines."

I don't think I've made the mistake of calling electric motors an engine, but I've sure called that thing under the hood a "motor" on occasion. But now, if our cars are propelled by "engines" why do we have the "Texas Motor Speedway" and "motor vehicle laws"?:laughing:

 

[bindian]

Kyle, I think Brandi was ribbing you about using the term "electric engine" instead of "electric motor". I'm not sure who it was who originally determined, and don't remember reading why he/she determined, that we have electric "motors" but gasoline/diesel/jet fuel "engines."

I don't think I've made the mistake of calling electric motors an engine, but I've sure called that thing under the hood a "motor" on occasion. But now, if our cars are propelled by "engines" why do we have the "Texas Motor Speedway" and "motor vehicle laws"?:laughing:

.........hehehe.............and extension hoses and air cords?:laughing:
hugs, Brandi

 

[bindian]

I would love a jet engined anything as long as I have someone else to pay the fuel bill.

Sump fuel works fine.:thumbsup:
hug, Brandi

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Sump fuel works fine.:thumbsup:
hug, Brandi

My friend was given 3 drums of fuel that they drain to test for water during preflight. He heated his barn with it for a good long while. Talk about expensive heat if you had to buy jet fuel...

 

[bindian]

My friend was given 3 drums of fuel that they drain to test for water during preflight. He heated his barn with it for a good long while. Talk about expensive heat if you had to buy jet fuel...

Kyle,
It is great when you get it from a trusted source. Biggest problem I have with getting it from SWA for my truck is some folks pour Skydrol hydraulic fluid (sometimes other liquids) in the sump barrels, which could very well eat parts of your fuel system up. I have no idea what it would do to a plastic fuel tank. Skydrol is the fluid that burns the skin on contact. Very bad jeu jeu.
hugs, Brandi