Splicing/braiding wire rope

[Chain Bender]

or cable as most know it. I'd give my right nad and the mortgage on my left to know how to splice this stuff and make eyes on the end. Anyone know of any good and REALLY easy instructions with LOTS of BIG SLOW pictures anwhere?

thanks in advance
Chain Bender

 

[mwb]

Molly Hogan wire rope splice 3 photos

YouTube - Wire Rope Splice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBlvFRDHdgM&NR=1

or try this:

Let me google that for you

 

[kco]

I've attached some scanned pages from a little 1967 booklet, Handbook For Riggers by W.G. (Bill) Newberry. I hope you can read it OK. I had to reduce the scan area and resolution to 100 dpi so it would fit under TBN's 1,000 KB limit for .pdf files.

 

[varmint]

One more source of information, even older, would be the USN Bluejacket's Manual, circa WWII, which has some step by step instructions on splicing wire ropes. They printed millions of them, and you can find them here and there.

 

[whateg0]

I'll bet the Bluejacket manual would have some helpful info. I learned to splice rope in Boy Scouts and learned a little more in the Navy. Sure is a nice skill to have. The best teacher is a real person, but there are a few Youtube videos on it.

edit: looks like I opened this thread awhile before actually hitting reply. Sorry for repeat info.

Dave

 

[Chain Bender]

I'll bet the Bluejacket manual would have some helpful info. I learned to splice rope in Boy Scouts and learned a little more in the Navy. Sure is a nice skill to have. The best teacher is a real person, but there are a few Youtube videos on it.

edit: looks like I opened this thread awhile before actually hitting reply. Sorry for repeat info.

Dave

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I can splice rope, make eyes and butt splices that look great. At one time back in the 70's I could braid/splice the big dock lines used on tankers.
Cable is another color of a different zebra.


Thanks for all the links guys. Will try them soon. I', on dial up at 56K and only get 28.8 on a good day, so videos aren't likely. But BIG pictures are welcomed.

CB

 

[saltbranch]

search for halo wire rope on you tube

 

[Baby Grand]

Holy cow - marlinspike tractor skilz!
Make sure you wear some good, heavy gloves, a leather apron and a full face helmet when you take that first job on.
You'll put your eye out with that thing!
I've done quite a few short splice, end splice and eye splices in 3 strand rope and even done an end and eye splice in double braid 12 strand, but doing it in steel rope (I would think) adds a whole level of difficulty and flailing sharp metal bits. Manly man stuff, that.

 

[FredH]

Actually use to do that in Forestry Class back in the '70's . Two guys working together could either splice 2 cables together or as you mentioned make an "eye" in 10 minutes or less . For a long time , it was just part of the class and also part of the State Forestry competition but now with all the insurance chasers , they rarely even run a chain saw .

We use to practice on old rusty chokers and main line donated by logging companies . Most was 1" or better in size . Would use a torch in Metal shop to whack it into manageable lengths .

Heck , that was 35 years ago .:confused2:

Fred H.


P.S. Not sure if this link will work but interesting reading .

http://www.wescovan.com/catalogs/WireRopeTerminations.pdf

 

[Baby Grand]

Thanks for that link - very interesting. Some of the mysteries of wire rope layed bare.

 

[saltbranch]

Are you wanting to see a handsplice video? We do splicing at work daily, we mainly do the flemish with a swage on sleeve.
For the handsplice we have vices specifically set up for this to make it faster and easier. I'll tell ya one thing I think is cool is the long splice,,joining 2 section of wire rope, the splice area is about 40' long and once spliced is complete you would be hard pressed to find it.

 

[pat32rf]

I've done the Flemish and clamped off the tag ends, just to try it but I'd sooner stick to nylon rope when splicing.....
Good info on that wesco link, don't know how often people have told me that I MUST "saddle the dead horse" to spread the strain

 

[crazyal]

There's a guy who makes a nice living splicing the wire rope used at ski areas around here. It doesn't look too hard but when someone is good at something it doesn't look hard. If it was easy I would guess that others would be doing it.

 

[saltbranch]

I've done the Flemish and clamped off the tag ends, just to try it but I'd sooner stick to nylon rope when splicing.....
Good info on that wesco link, don't know how often people have told me that I MUST "saddle the dead horse" to spread the strain

I run into alot of that with customers, I always tell them Never Saddle a Dead Horse, shown them where it states in the manufactures books etc.

Handsplices are alot of work, doubt I could do one today,,,well maybe it would came back....been awhile since I worked the splicing vises. We built a vice on a stand that will rotate(read pipe sleeved into larger pipe with standard Wilton vice bolted to top) then have an overhead pipe with a small vice on it.You get your eye started then clamp in lower vice, clamp the rest of cable in smaller overhead vice, then turn lower vice a turn or so to release some of the torque on the cable, then pin lower vice to stay in position, then make your hand splice.Turning the bottom vice and pinning releases some the cable torque, opens the strands up to make it easier to splice.Once done pull the pin and vice will spin to "tighten" the strands up in the splce area and you cut or tape your tails

 

[Baby Grand]

Are you wanting to see a handsplice video? We do splicing at work daily, we mainly do the flemish with a swage on sleeve.
For the handsplice we have vices specifically set up for this to make it faster and easier. I'll tell ya one thing I think is cool is the long splice,,joining 2 section of wire rope, the splice area is about 40' long and once spliced is complete you would be hard pressed to find it.

Yes! I have a 50' hank of 1/2" or 5/8" cable out in the shed that is somewhat useless right now, owing to the gnarl at both ends. An eye on one end and a back splice on the other would tansform it into an item of great utility to me.

 

[tcartwri]

My hands started to bleed just looking at those pictures.

 

[psj12]

When I was in the Coast Guard we spliced our own cables and made our own slings. Later I went to work for the Army and the same held true. Quite a few years ago they came through our work areas and took all the hand spliced cables and said only swaged commercially made slings were legal under OSHA.

I never saw a splice in rope or cable fail to hold.

 

[Chain Bender]

Thanks to all. I've been off the net for a while. Just wanted to stop back in and say thanks.

CB

 

[Chain Bender]

It just came to my mind that i needed to clarify my question.

I'm talking about 7 strand (6 spiral strands and one bigger center strand) SS 1/4" stuff. A friend of mine did one for me and he unravled about a foot of it, made a loop of some kind (eye) and then rewound the seperated tags back onto the oposite half of the unravle wire. Once he was done you could barely find the ends of the wires.

 

[saltbranch]

When I was in the Coast Guard we spliced our own cables and made our own slings. Later I went to work for the Army and the same held true. Quite a few years ago they came through our work areas and took all the hand spliced cables and said only swaged commercially made slings were legal under OSHA.

I never saw a splice in rope or cable fail to hold.

I dont think that hand splices have made illigal by OSHA, we are selling/making hand splice slings for some of the largest drilling companies and construction companies in the US. Companies with unreal requirements on safety. IE- serial#s, pull tests with graph charts etc .Hand splice eyes,endless grommets, running splices in sandlines are the main forms of hand splice we do.. Granted the swage sleeve is the majority of the slings we make, but there are a few that still want the hand splice eye.