Bad neighbors and County corruption

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   / Bad neighbors and County corruption #21  
That's even better, strength in numbers...

Have you looked into his background?

Serious question... is he in control of his faculties or weak minded?
 
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That's even better, strength in numbers...

Have you looked into his background?

Serious question... is he in control of his faculties or weak minded?

For the area he is wealthy and very well connected, his 34 year old son still lives at home with them and the father and son are infamous for doing this sort of thing, I don't know if they are in mental control or not, they are very irrational. As you can see in the video they have now taken over the County road and narrowed it down to 1 lane. I guess he feels the County and states legal easements are Taking his land, but both were in place long before he bought it.

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   / Bad neighbors and County corruption #23  
K,

Thanks for the quick response :D

I had already read the 8 pages on the AR forum detailing your problems with these ...... jokers ..... by the time you replied though :D Nevertheless, it's good for those reading here (or anywhere) to understand the background.

Personally, I think that you've done the right thing by posting the videos and recorded calls .... the best way to push these (government) retards into action is to shine a really, really bright light in their direction. Sounds like Boss Hawg is well on his way to blowing a gasket. (I hope you started with the "light" stuff and have even more juicy stuff in reserve)

You do understand why he's freakin', right ?

The thought of being investigated noisily probably has him quaking in his boots ..... and the degree to which he quakes, could be considered a measure of how much dirt there may exist to be uncovered ....

You might want to consider taking out an ad in the local paper asking for people to contact you with similar stories of governmental abuse/corruption.

Funny things happen when things like this get posted on the internet ..... they can go viral. A month ago, hardly anyone knew who our local JBT (jack-booted thug), Officer Daniel Harless, of the Canton Police Department was - now he's an international celebrity, much to his, and his fellow officers, chagrin I'd bet.

I agree with some of the posts that you need to really go on the offensive (easy for me to say) with the Kirkes - and make it painful for them to continue their own complete irresponsibility for their own livestock, and attempting to prevent you and your family from quietly enjoying your own property. You need to be completely legal and ethical in doing so however.

You and the others in your area who have been personally effected by their actions, should document your difficulties in clearly written affidavits that are sworn to - under the penalty of perjury - before an officer of the court (attorney), or state official (notary public) These need to very detailed, accurate (no generalizations, conclusions, etc. - just facts: who, what, when, and where) and entirely truthful.

For instance, an allegation that the Kirkes poisoned your dog is a conclusion ..... but the fact that you had a confrontation with Kirkes .... and your dog was poisoned a day later are simply facts. Avoid conclusions - it's much better when people draw their own, rather than being fed them - just make sure that you provide enough facts so that it's relatively easy for them to do so.

One avenue of attack against Kirkes is they are apparently distributors or resellers for cattle equipment that is produced by one or more companies. These companies are quite possibly unaware that they may have people of questionable moral and ethical character representing them. If I were a company owner, I'd sure want to be aware of that.

The idea on the affidavits to find as many publics for them as possible. TBN is one example of a public. So could any forums or trade associations that Kirkes are on or belong to.

Heck, you could go up there and hand them out to general public at some community event .... like a county fair, or whatever ....

Just some thoughts.
 
   / Bad neighbors and County corruption #24  
I am a land surveyor, and I have seen this kind of thing before. This is by far the worst case I have seen. As you are well aware, your neighbor is trying to run you over, and he is doing a good job. If you win a case in court, they will find something else to do to you. It most likely will never end. I've seen people like this before, they will never quit no matter how right you are and how wrong they are.

My thought on the police, DA, and county govt. Is they are not corrupt, they aren't taking his side, they just don't want to mess with it. I've seen it before, they don't want to get involved in what the think is a private dispute.

I am saying this in all sincerity. Extract yourself from this situation. Sell the property, give up on it. It's not worth the stress, the danger, the potential of a physical confortation with a bad outcome, etc. I know this seems like a unfair suggestion, the police and government are the to serve you, but it's not working out. Trust me when I say this, there is only three ways this will work out, you die, they die, or one of the parties moves away. Any thing else will just lead to continued conflict.
 
   / Bad neighbors and County corruption #25  
I would have already lost my cool and ended up in jail for SOMETHING!! Try to maintain your cool but don't give in to them. Try to figure out a way to beat them at their own game.
My first thought would be to find the grader operator that maintains the road and slide him a few bucks to clear the obstructions from the roadway..., but then I don't play fair when provoked!
David from jax
 
   / Bad neighbors and County corruption #26  
Trust me when I say this, there is only three ways this will work out, you die, they die, or one of the parties moves away. Any thing else will just lead to continued conflict.

That is my take and why I asked for more info on the other party...

Had a neighbor that started to act crazy after his wife left him with two preteens... he would sit on his front porch inside the city limits and clean his rifle just about everyday...

He started acting very strange and I just avoided him... didn't even ask to go on his property to paint the side of my detached garage... city lots long ago had garages with on wall on the lot line...

Anyway, Dementia has set in... his kids are gone and he doesn't speak two words... I really don't think he will be able to stay there much longer and his kids would sell in a spit-second...

Till then... everyone avoids confrontation...

Year ago he had a survey to show my garage is actually 4 to 6 inches on my side... just like everyone else in the 200 home 1920's sub-division... the problem is it is not worth it to cause a problem by setting foot on his 45 by 125 lot.
 
   / Bad neighbors and County corruption #27  
So Albion,

Double Post
 
   / Bad neighbors and County corruption #28  
So Albion,

You are up against this bunch? Kirkes Black Angus Ranch

And you are southeast of Albion OK located at the intersection of County rd 1650 and County 4478 where there is a small stub in the road? Albion OK - Google Maps

Definitely have a fight on your hands and with all that forest behind and hunting thats what they want.. Control..
 
   / Bad neighbors and County corruption #29  
Kirkes Black Angus Ranch according to the o/p are not operating on good faith with their neighbors, so what do you think they are going to do to complete strangers in their upcoming sale auction. My thoughts and experiences have been to steer clear of people who are proven to not operate on the best of faith, and carrying rifles onto another man's property and that property is vandalized in that same time frame, and is trying to cut off a man's access to his home and property isn't someone I would want to do business with. There are too many upstanding business men to work with without having to deal with scum.
A good day would be for his cows to come up sick the day of the sale!!!
David from jax
 
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So Albion,

You are up against this bunch? Kirkes Black Angus Ranch

And you are southeast of Albion OK located at the intersection of County rd 1650 and County 4478 where there is a small stub in the road? Albion OK - Google Maps

Definitely have a fight on your hands and with all that forest behind and hunting thats what they want.. Control..

Yea, that's them. I just got a call from another neighbor, and now this same man is trying to dispute his property line. This will be the third property in the last few years he has done this to.
 
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