How do taxes work?

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jacobsdaddy06

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Purchased 10 acres, how exactly does it all work with buying equipment and everything? Not looking at really starting a "business" or anything just wondering if I would be eligible for a tax deduction from buying equipment? Thanks for all replies
 
   / How do taxes work? #2  
Unless you have a business and deduct it as some type of expense, you won't be able to claim any deduction.
 
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Unless you have a business and deduct it as some type of expense, you won't be able to claim any deduction.

Very true, and even if you have some sort of business on the property, you have to be very careful with deductions.

If you're a private guy, you're kinda on your own. Welcome to the club.:thumbsup:
 
   / How do taxes work? #4  
Purchased 10 acres, how exactly does it all work with buying equipment and everything? Not looking at really starting a "business" or anything just wondering if I would be eligible for a tax deduction from buying equipment? Thanks for all replies

Depending on your state, you may not have to pay sales tax if the equipment is for farm use.
 
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Don't know the answer but I have also heard of tax savings if you own at least 10-acres of land. After a considerable amount of Google time I could find no mention of these savings or state requirements. Could someone elaborate for us?
 
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JUST DID.............

We are/have a bona fide farm business and registered business name. When we buy a tractor or implement we pay no tax on it, however, an exemption certificate is provided by us to the seller/dealer.

And yes, we depreciate all the equipment.

...and yes, the IRS is very particular about what you deduct as are the respective states.

...consequently, we have a CPA that takes care of our taxes. Part of doing business.:)

Just because you own 10 acres don't make you a farm. I actually own less than 10 acres but we derive part of our income (actually a large part) from ag related activities, consequently, we fall under the definition of farming for profit.

The key to the equation is, if you will, do you derive part of your income from an agricultrial related activity? If the answer is yes (and you can prove it with tangible recepits and payment for services rendered or crop sales), then you qualify to be ag exempt from state sales and Federal Excise tax, but be ready to prove it.

My final comment is, if you have any doubt as to the validity of your proposal, don't do it. The IRS and state revenue departments frown upon non agricultrial activities being claimed as ag related. Owning 10 acres and mowing 6 with an acre garden and house on the remaining acre with an in ground pool, is not a bonafide ag operation. Never will be.

You claim an ag exemption under that pretense and you'll get burned, bad.
 
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I consulted my accountant a year or so ago about this. We used to run a few cows and now primarily farm trees. Since there is upkeep to this I was able to file under a farm status and deduct equipment purchases and expenses this way. I usually have them run the numbers with and without each year just to see what the actual difference is. Based on what I do annually, it is not a significant amount but I figure anything coming back is better than nothing.
 
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I consulted my accountant a year or so ago about this. We used to run a few cows and now primarily farm trees. Since there is upkeep to this I was able to file under a farm status and deduct equipment purchases and expenses this way. I usually have them run the numbers with and without each year just to see what the actual difference is. Based on what I do annually, it is not a significant amount but I figure anything coming back is better than nothing.

There you go. You have a bonafide operation. So long as you can physically show that you indeed participate in some typr of farming, you qualify.

It's significant for me because I turn over serious equipment expense.

In essence t you could live in a subdivision and be in a bonafide agricultrial enterprise like I am. Just so long as you can provide tangible proof of income derivived from an agricultrial enterprise. It's all in the paperwork
 
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What I am looking at doing is getting into the hay part of farming, ive done this for years with a relative but nothing by myself, just trying to see what im looking at and have to do, by the way I live in Arkansas, thanks for all the info
 
   / How do taxes work? #10  
All good examples of why our federal and states tax codes are frakked up, and need to be replaced with a flat tax system.
 

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