VERY expensive beet juice!

   / VERY expensive beet juice! #61  
I've not gotten too much input on weights. Do they really not provide a benefit over fluid? I mean having a tire filled with air so that it can deform must have some value? Is fluid that much more stable than weights?

People always quote Beet juice and other fluids in dollars per gallon. Start measuring it in $ per lb, and you'll see why so many people don't talk about steel or iron weight.

In the previous example, 110 gallons is about 1150lbs, IIRC. At over $1.50/pound for new weight, the $325 looks like a bargain - even after 4 full refills (if you ever need that many.)
 
   / VERY expensive beet juice!
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People always quote Beet juice and other fluids in dollars per gallon. Start measuring it in $ per lb, and you'll see why so many people don't talk about steel or iron weight.

In the previous example, 110 gallons is about 1150lbs, IIRC. At over $1.50/pound for new weight, the $325 looks like a bargain - even after 4 full refills (if you ever need that many.)

I guess in my case, beet juice is quite exotic around here. Going with it is at least $1000 when transportation, storage containers and some extra lying around for leaks etc. are factored in. That will add 1600 lb of weight so $0.63 per lb. Weights are $1.75 per lb. So 3x the price pretty much.

PG seems prohibitive cost wise around where I am. A 55 gallon drum is like $1000! Unless I am missing something basic, I will need a 3:1 mix of water to PG to get a decent freeze point.

Looks like Methanol concentrated to be mixed on my own or WWF if I can source it at a decent price is the way to go. Noticed that Fastenal carries a 55 gallon drum of WWF for $125. I expect the price here should be about the same. I'm going to follow up on a few sources like Napa and another bulk supplier. My guess is that this will work out to be the best route.
 
   / VERY expensive beet juice! #63  
Calcium Chloride will last many years before it rears its ugly head. First it will eat out the valve stems on the tube. Then the seepage will eat out the rims. The tire has to come off, tube replaced, and the rim patch welded and ground smooth. Then a new tube must be purchased and the price of refilling the tires must be paid.
 
   / VERY expensive beet juice! #64  
Check into price on Magnesium Chloride. My farmer budding in ND tells me that is what some of the dealers are starting to use for tubeless tires.
 
   / VERY expensive beet juice! #65  
johnk said:
Thank God I put Beet juice in my rears 2 years ago. 110 gallons cost me 325 and they did the filling. Prices on everything are out of hand. In still feel beet juice is the best filling because of tyhe weight per gallon and the non corrosiveness of the solution. If everyone was sure they wouldn't get flat I feel this is the way to go...

After all of these replies about glycol, only one of them acknowledges that the rimgaurd is actually heavier. Rimgaurd, around 40% heavier per gallon than glycol, why would anyone even consider filling their tires with anything else?
 
   / VERY expensive beet juice! #66  
Table sugar is made from sugar beets. At Sam's club sugar is about sixty cents per pound. Seems like one could make a 80/20 mix of sugar/water for less money than antifreeze or the current price of Rim Guard where transportation & container costs are included. MikeD74T
 
   / VERY expensive beet juice! #67  
Table sugar is made from sugar beets. At Sam's club sugar is about sixty cents per pound. Seems like one could make a 80/20 mix of sugar/water for less money than antifreeze or the current price of Rim Guard where transportation & container costs are included. MikeD74T

Your tire pressures may vary once fermentation starts. There may be some left to drink (after the blowout).
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   / VERY expensive beet juice! #68  
I recently read, on KeelyNet I think, that honey is a good anti boiling mix in a radiator so I guess it acts like anti freeze too. I don't know how much is required but just thought I would mention it for general interest. When I bought my CK30 I asked the salesman about water in the tyres and he said they had already done that for me. We don't have frosts here. Not like you poor sods. lol
 
   / VERY expensive beet juice! #69  
CC will kill your rims, given time. We had to replace the rims on our combine recently because of corrosion. Ouch! Don't want to do that again.....

GGB

that's where a tube comes in handy.

soundguy
 
   / VERY expensive beet juice! #70  
According to a Google search, Rimguard IS beet juice.

What about just "foam-filling" the tires? It is quite heavy, doesn't freeze and can't go flat.
 

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