Snowblower: Width vs PTO hp

[leonz]

I'm not sure and I stand to be corrected, but I think the salt seam is above the potash.

There's been some talk about re-opening the deep mines on Cape Breton Island (about 300 road miles east of here), but as far as I know that's all it is...talk. Those shafts are out under the Atlantic Ocean. There were also very deep coal mines at Springhill, N.S. (near the Pugwash salt mine) but the big mines closed after the disasters in 1956 and 1958.

If I remember correctly those were the two mine wide failures.
one involving a complete collapse of the longwall trapping everyone
15,000 feet down and the other was a gas explosion killing most of
the miners on the mine face near the long wall shearer.

 

[leonz]

I rounded higher for simplicitys sake. Are you in the Lignite coal portion of the Basin Jerry or near the Wyodak Coal Seam portion?



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Your 147 lb per sec must be a typo then.

I live in the Mission Valley .

I thought I scribbled 147 pounds per the seven foot width
of the snow caster at a one foot depth of snow fall. Whoopsie!!!!

I will go back and fix my whoopsie.


EDIT: I cannot go back and fix my WHOOPSIE, it should be 147 pounds per 7 square feet times 3 to equal 441 pounds per second at three miles per hour of travel speed.



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Pronovost or not at all!!!:thumbsup::licking::drool:

 

[Klorinth]

A solid auger is nothing more than a grain auger of sorts with
narrow flighting which is the distance between each section
of ribbon on an auger.


The key is having a large diameter drum that the ribbbon is welded
to which limits the amount of snow that can be metered to the impeller
with zero flooding and jamming.

A larger diameter drum and ribbon would be very easy to use and operate
with two stage or single stage rear mounted snow blowers.

If the flights were 10-15 degrees apart and 4 inches deep the snow removal
with a two stage or single stage snow caster would become a zero issue, but the snow caster would cost a bit more to build and purchase.

Now that makes sense.

So a guy would have to get a good sized pipe and find a way to attach the flights properly. An easy modification...right? Way beyond my skills, but an interesting idea.

 

[Klorinth]

Sorry to but in but the HST doesn't allow you to handle more snow. it allows you to match the blower's capacity to the ammount of snowfall by having a variable ground speed at constant pto speed.

Thank you Jerry.
I thought about it after I had posted it, and realized I had written something wrong. Definitely not more.

 

[leonz]

Now that makes sense.

So a guy would have to get a good sized pipe and find a way to attach the flights properly. An easy modification...right? Way beyond my skills, but an interesting idea.

The ribbons are cold rolled in most cases and welded on the hollow drums used for the single stage snow casters and grain augers.


It is something that is easily done by purchasing pre- assembled conveyor pulleys and bending and winding the strap iron to create the ribbon then weld it to the pulley. The bearings would have to be 2 row roller bearings to handle the weight but they can be mounted simply on the exterior of the snow caster.




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Pronovost or not all!!!:thumbsup::licking::drool:

 

[Jerry/MT]

I thought I scribbled 147 pounds per the seven foot width
of the snow caster at a one foot depth of snow fall. Whoopsie!!!!

I will go back and fix my whoopsie.


EDIT: I cannot go back and fix my WHOOPSIE, it should be 147 pounds per 7 square feet times 3 to equal 441 pounds per second at three miles per hour of travel speed.


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Pronovost or not at all!!!:thumbsup::licking::drool:

You have to convert 3 mph to feet per second to get the units correct. It's 1 ft x 7ft x 4.4ft/sec x 21 lb/cu ft =646.8 lb/sec.

 

[grsthegreat]

Im kinda confused here with these calculations. Everytime i move snow it varies as to whether its dry pack, moist pack or just plain WET snow pack. How can there be one set #/sec rating for all these different kinds of snow conditions?

 

[flyingcow]

Im kinda confused here with these calculations. Everytime i move snow it varies as to whether its dry pack, moist pack or just plain WET snow pack. How can there be one set #/sec rating for all these different kinds of snow conditions?

For me...it's over thinking. What i know is I have a 75hp tractor(64hp on the pto) and a 7 1/2 ft blower is big enough. My tractor has a 16x16 tranny. If i had a 45hp tractor with the same blower, it's not gonna work. Even if it's a hydro tranny. But keep in mind, I don't blow snow unless the storm is over or someone needs to get in or out.

 

[Jerry/MT]

Im kinda confused here with these calculations. Everytime i move snow it varies as to whether its dry pack, moist pack or just plain WET snow pack. How can there be one set #/sec rating for all these different kinds of snow conditions?

There isn't. LeonZ stated that dry snow weighs ~21 lbs per cu ft and if it's wet, than the density can double. if the density doubles then the weight flow doubles all other things being equal. if the weight flow doubles the work doubles and so the power required to blow the snow increases. if you're running at max power, you either have to reduce traveling speed, take a smaller cut, or both.