1948 8n should the pto run when clutch is pushed in

[jonyyuma]

it's a draft control.. not depth. ( assuming you are in draft mode and not position mode anyway.. )

draft is set as a constant.. depth is the variable based on soil and implement.

common misnomer..

soundguy

Yes, but they mean about the same to me, as i am a Hobby Farmer? Meaning a gardener with a tractor...and I like piddling in the garden and eating fresh food..anyway, I think he knew more about it after he read it? What took you so long, bet you took the day off????

 

[rankrank1]

Back in the 1940's and 1950's: Most farmers did not stop at the beginning and end of rows when plowing. The plow was raised or lowered while the tractor was moving. Of course back then the farmers were used to the old tow type plows of that era anyway which were raised and lowered via a trip rope where the plow wheel had to be spinning to raise and lower the plow with mechanical linkage from the wheel. Compared to this even the 8N hydraulics were a significant improvement.

FWIW: Live hydraulics can be added to your 8N tractor via some pretty nice aftermarket kits or alternatively and more crudely with some backyard engineering do it yourself kits that usually utilize an old auto PS pump. Live PTO on the other hand is not easily added.

I have 5 tractors and not a one of them has Live PTO. Live PTO is not really an issue for my needs and I even do bale hay which is one of the hardest things to do without live PTO - I simply plan ahead.

My tractors that do have a 3point hitch do at least have live hydraulics which I do like. If I was going to have an N series around I would be adding live hydraulics to it. Well I guess I do sorta have an N although mine is a 1953 NAA/jubilee which were the first Fords to have live hydraulics from the factory - although still no live PTO unless you have the ultra rare hand lever hand activated clutch pack of which I have only seen exactly one of these in my lifetime and it did not work.

 

[Soundguy]

Yes, but they mean about the same to me, ?

with draft, depth is not constant, unless soil conditions are 100% equal.

thus in constant draft, draft is kept the same, while depth is (can be ) varied.

soundguy

 

[MarblemountLane]

Know what ya mean about the 8N. When Dad and his brother were bailing with ours, they got really good a very quickly:
Bailer slugs up,
bump clutch,
pull tractor out of gear,
release clutch to spin up bailer,
bump clutch,
pop tractor back into gear.

They envied the later tractors where you could just push the clutch half stroke to stop moving, but PTO kept going until you pushed clutch all the way.

I lost my Yanmar YM240 in divorce. I'm through that, no longer living on a negative net income, very happily remarried, but not all that rich (supporting an ex and a family will do that), so I find myself looking again at ads for used 8N tractors, with aftermarket buckets (which has to be done right and used with discretion, or you break the tractor in half).

Need a bit more time to save my pennies. Maybe it will be an old 8N, or maybe something just a bit newer like 801, 841 or 861. For home use, and not being a farmer by trade, I may be better of with an old timer than a newer compact. Just so I can haul it on my 7,500 lb. car trailer so I don't have to upgrade that right now.

Looks like Dad's 1962 Fordson Super Major is down for the count, unless he gets a super deal on an engine. The 8N would be fun because it's something I grew up with.

 

[EE_Bota]

We had one of the overriding clutches that are supposed to keep the bush hog from driving you through a barn, but even so, I managed to lock that tractor up a few times.

Any of you get it to where you are choked, and you managed to get the PTO to bind with the transmission so you can't get either out of gear?

I used to puzzle over it, but I always got muddy afterwards.

 

[48Ford8n]

Marble just like you my father grew up running 8n's. That was the reason that we ended up getting ours. After looking at the forums we are going to get another tractor with a front end loader for around the farm but the 8n will most likely be on the farm for the rest of its life. Even though we will have a new tractor it will get plent of use doing bush hogging and disc work since we want a backhoe attachment for the new tractor as well.

 

[Soundguy]

We had one of the overriding clutches that are supposed to keep the bush hog from driving you through a barn, but even so, I managed to lock that tractor up a few times.

Any of you get it to where you are choked, and you managed to get the PTO to bind with the transmission so you can't get either out of gear?

I used to puzzle over it, but I always got muddy afterwards.

it is possible to get a mower blade hung on an ant mound or simlar and hld tension against the pto shaft and gears and coupler... an ORC and pape wrench fixes that in short order though..

 

[MarblemountLane]

Mention of a backhoe gets me thinking again. We'd really like one. I miss the little ARPS 80 I had on the Yanmar. Dad has a somewhat worn Kelley 40 for his Fordson Super Major. If I get something bigger, I can maybe use that. I doubt he'll get the Super Major up and going again. I have a soft spot for the little old 8N, but something else would be better suited to a backhoe.

Well, I've got time to think about it while I save my pennies...

 

[Soundguy]

i mounted a woods 6500 hoe on my 850.. looks and works good. good size match..

 

[MarblemountLane]

Thanks, that sort of points me in a good direction.

The little 8N is a great tractor. Grandpa had a 1948 8N, then Dad had it, then Dad later had another 8N, they were sort of around when I grew up.
Heck, I even miss the odd Irish Market Fordson (from about 1938, way after the Fordsons here) Dad had for a while, impulse magneto, driveline brake when you held the clutch all the way down (little dog to latch it down fora parking brake), and generally a few difference from the 1920's vintage Fordsons he grew up with.

The 850 sounds like a pretty versatile size of tractor.