Round balers

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I have a lot to learn. Looking for recommendations on round balers. New Holland is king around here since they are headquarted about 30 miles away in New Holland PA.

I've looked at a ton of 'em on tractor house. Seems like net wrapping is a big plus.
What do I look for in a 4x4 or 4x5 round baler in terms of price, features, etc?
 
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when I was growing up we had NH balers. ALL of them were the beltless chain style and they worked great(I don't know if they make them any other way because I haven't seen them if they do). it was nice not having belts break and having to splice them back together best case or worst case replace one/all of the belts. the only thing is they cannot be overfed because they will bend/break the cross bars.
 
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A lot seems to depend on what's popular in your particular area.

Having said that, around here, it's JD, Vermeer or NH. Those three make up probably 90% of all round balers in our area. All three are good machines. I bought a JD, because I got a great deal on a good clean used one. If I had to go buy a new baler, it would have probably been a Vermeer. Vermeer 504M Classic

I have a JD 457. (458 is the current model, see here: JD 458) It makes a 4' wide x 5' tall roll. If I do my part, it will make a really nice, tight roll that weighs about 1000-1200 lbs. It uses hydraulic tension. That really helps keep the roll tight, from center to outside edge. Tight rolls hold their shape and stack well.

Just my preference, but I don't have the net wrap, and don't want it. It has to be cut from the roll before feeding. Now, net wrap is faster that wrapping a roll with twine.

On the JD, I would suggest the "Mega-Wide" pickup. Much more forgiving when picking up the windrow. On the Vermeer, the "HaySaver" wheels help to do the same thing. I also like the big "flotation" tires. If you have a cab tractor, I would look for a model with the electronic monitor.

If you're looking for a good used baler, you'll have to do some homework. You really need to talk to someone in your area that is using one and knows how to operate it. They can show you all the "wear parts" and what to look for. It's a long list. For instance, are the chains riding high on the sprocket teeth? That means that the chains are worn (stretched) and need to be replaced. Depending on wear, the sprockets may need replacing also. New chains and sprockets can easily cost hundreds of dollars. Are the belts worn and torn? A new set of belts will run well over $1000. You get the picture.
 
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I have a lot to learn. Looking for recommendations on round balers. New Holland is king around here since they are headquarted about 30 miles away in New Holland PA.

I've looked at a ton of 'em on tractor house. Seems like net wrapping is a big plus.
What do I look for in a 4x4 or 4x5 round baler in terms of price, features, etc?



Make sure you price out the sileage special. Heavier bearings, wider pick up auger, among things.
 
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my preference would be jd.
 
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I assume wide pickup is just what it says-wider swath of hay picked up compared to a standard model?
What are the star wheels set out at angles on the side of the baler for? Do they throw stray hay back in front of the pickup?

What size should I concentrate on? 4x5?
 
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What are you going to be doing? Selling the hay, dry rounds, custom baling?

If doing silage bales, I would keep away from "kits" that make them silage balers. Most around here haven't had good luck with those. Alright for the occasional wet bales, but too much wrapping around the rollers.

Would come to dealer support. New Holland being 30 miles away should be good support. I would see what dealers in the area seem to be in the hay equipment business and concentrate on one of those brands.
 
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on a newholland you can get the wide pickup with out getting a silage speacial

You can get the "Mega wide" pickup on a JD baler too - without the Silage Special. The JD 458 is a 4x5 baler and is available in a standard, Mega wide or Silage Special configuration.

AKfish
 
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You can get the "Mega wide" pickup on a JD baler too - without the Silage Special. The JD 458 is a 4x5 baler and is available in a standard, Mega wide or Silage Special configuration.

AKfish

a newholland br 7060 can have everything you stayed also. But i would be looking for a Newholland baler since he lives so close to where they are built and imo they are the best baler made
 

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