Log Splitter on BX25

[Tractor Seabee]

Northland & J_J or Others,

J_J and I have been kicking this to death already, and I feel he has made me really plan this out. I do not want to go off half-cocked.

I am working on the same scenario with my BX25. It is a Power Beyond system and I want to use the BH connection points. As I interpert the hydraulic systems drawings in the shop manual the PB port has to be connected or the FEL won't work as its power comes from the PB port from the BH valve block. With the BH off the tractor you have to plug the P and PB connectors together. Will that Prince valve allow the third port to continue the Power circuit? I am about to buy an old DEUS beast with 4" cylinder and 30" stroke. I will never need 30" as I cut everything 16" first. It's valve only has two hydraulic ports-P and T. Is there a way to shorten the stroke w/o changing the cylinder?

If I could figure out how, I would post the diagram from the manual. I have it in PDF.

Ron

 

[J_J]

The FEL will work irregardless if the fluid has a path to tank.

As far as shorten the stroke, you could put a wedge behind the cyl, and when the cyl retracts, it will contact the wedge and return to neutral. That kick back to neutral can be adjusted.

The prince valve only has IN ,OUT, work port 1, and 2

 

[Chilly807]

You could eliminate the problems you're having with the design of this by adding a dedicated remote valve and QC's separate from the backhoe circuit.

It'll add cost but also simplicity.

2 hoses on the splitter, one plugs into each QC, you either bungee the remote valve in position or detent it, and split your wood.

When you're done with wood, disconnect the splitter and park it, replace the backhoe with the usual connections.

You can probably use the existing connections, but the backhoe valve is designed to have flow through it all the time it's connected (not necessarily to the backhoe cylinders, of course), that's why you loop the 2 connections together with the backhoe removed.

I may be wrong on this, but it's my take on the situation you're in.

Sean

 

[J_J]

What could be any more simpler that a 7 ft hose from the PB pit port to a QD in the back, and a 3 ft hose from the 3pt IN, to another QD at the back, and call the two QD's, Aux1, and Aux2.

Aux1 comes directly from the FEL PB OUT port.

Aux 1 always the source with a male QD. Lest expensive. Of course, a jumper between Aux1, Aux2 when not using the BH or log splitter.

Stroke control

http://www.wadler.com/products.asp

http://www.depthstop.com/why-grip-rite.htm

http://www.princehyd.com/Portals/0/products/accessories/catalog/StrokeControlSleeves.pdf

 

[J_J]

If you have a loader on the tractor, just unplug the curl circuit, and extend the hoses to the back with QD's called QD1, and QD2. Plug in the log splitter in to these QD's, and go to work. Lock down the joystick lever. You still have 3pt.

Set the log splitter relief to match the FEL relief pressure.

 

[Chilly807]

He will need a PB capable valve on the splitter, I haven't had much to do with those yet, so I don't know how common those are.

Sean

 

[J_J]

If his FEL valve does have or does not have a PB port, the curl cyl hoses will still supply the hyd flow to the rear. Pb is for passing fluid to the next valve with reduced risk. The expended fluid is going out the OUT port whether he is using the curl cyl or the log splitter or the BH.

Those valve with PB are common with tractors needing additional valves. The basic low budget tractor may not have the PB capability, maybe one of the reason the tractor cost less.

Valves designed to work in open center series circuit will have PB. It is just good common sense

 

[Artisan]

T SeeBee did you get this figured out? If so I would love to see clear pics of what you did.

 

[Tractor Seabee]

T SeeBee did you get this figured out? If so I would love to see clear pics of what you did.

Artisan,

Project is on hold due to spinal surgery. I have decided that I have to get a valve with PB port. That way it hooks up same as the backhoe (three hoses). By the end of the month I may get to it again. Probably now I will work on a set of brush forks to anchor to the FEL as I have a logging project coming up and will need to handle all the limbs to make fire wood. I cut up every thing larger than 1". Saves a lot of kindling splitting and why burn or chip it.

When I start on hydraulic efforts; I plan to add a third function to the FEL for a grapple I plan to make along with brush forks (a two way solenoid valve with momentary switch on the FEL joy stick) and a four spool rear remote for various other attachments I plan to build or modify to make hydraulic vice manual.

J-J got me on the right thought process.

Ron

 

[J_J]

Tractor Seabee,

You actually have three options for the splitter /BH.

One hose from the PB to the rear feeding the splitter, and splitter return going to tank.

A remote 2 or three spool valve and using one work port to feed the splitter/BH, and the return going to tank.

Using one curl hose to feed the splitter/BH, and the return going to tank.

In the first two options, the 3pt is not in the circuit, and in the thrid option, you can use the 3pt when not using the FEL curl circuit.

If not using the splitter or BH, just jumper the PB hose to the 3pt IN hose/fitting.