New Land, New Home Build

[extrakt0r]

Your right... arrogant was not the right word for you.

Nothing more to see here for me.

I don't think you have been paying attention the entire thread. After all, your entire post (#18) was advice on a floor plan that wasn't even the same as what I posted, then when I pointed it out to you, you said it was for the plan in the link, which was updated my myself.

So yeah, move along, nothing else for you to see here.

 

[workinallthetime]

have you thought about digging your latteral lines yourself? its pretty easy work, especially if you have a flat area to dump (no pun intended) them in. If you can get a plan from a plumber, buy the pipe rent a mini hoe, get some gravel and knock it out.
Im not sure about the code requirments for you to do it yourself would be the only issue.

we are toying with the idea of building our own home, my problem is i have to build a 5' tall pad for the thing to sit on due to the flood area we live in.

 

[mikefromnh]

Sounds like you have it all figured out then... So why did you ask for advice?

Don't ask for advice then be critical when you get it. That is the definition of arrogant...

Good question.

 

[mikefromnh]

I don't think you have been paying attention the entire thread. After all, your entire post (#18) was advice on a floor plan that wasn't even the same as what I posted, then when I pointed it out to you, you said it was for the plan in the link, which was updated my myself.

So yeah, move along, nothing else for you to see here.

Seems like you want to tell us all about how you are an awesome GC (even though you haven't accomplished anything yet)

I would suggest you actually take time and listen to the advice you have been given.

 

[extrakt0r]

Seems like you want to tell us all about how you are an awesome GC (even though you haven't accomplished anything yet)

I would suggest you actually take time and listen to the advice you have been given.

Really? I have not done anything troll? Let me summarize for you.

Purchased 10 acres by myself w/o a Realtor - how many do that these days?
Contracted with an Architect to design me a house and modify it to my needs.
Worked with a local KC structural engineer to stamp the plans - do you know what that even means?
Located and purchased a tractor.
Started to prep the land and clear it of debris.
Obtain a master site plan, and survey
Submitted plans to Kansas City for review, and obtained a master building permit - which was an involved process I might add
Preformed a perc test on the land
Worked with a geo engineer to design my septic system and layout
Worked with various subs to obtain the necessary bids for my construction loan
SAVED up the necessary 20% down for the loan. How many in America do that these days?
Taken out a construction loan.
Setup an LLC to shelter all this activity under a tax entity
Just last weekend, located and puchased a F350 farm truck.
Worked with local utilities to get power, and water to my site (temp to perm)
All while I still work my 40 hour a week job.

So yeah, I have not done anything. :thumbsup:

 

[extrakt0r]

have you thought about digging your latteral lines yourself?

Yeah. I plan on digging the laterals for the septic tank. When we are doing our below slab plumbing I am going to rent a mini-excavator to dig all the sewer runs, plus the trenches to the street for utilities. I am also going to dig the spetic tank hole, the hole for the rainwater collection tank, and the lateral field - probably use the FEL for that.

In KC you can install your own septic, but it has to be designed by a Geo Engineer, so that is what we did. I can get the tank for $1500 or so, then all the rest is PVC and gravel. We are going to add in a backflow preventor in the main sewer line - just in case.

 

[workinallthetime]

Yeah. I plan on digging the laterals for the septic tank. When we are doing our below slab plumbing I am going to rent a mini-excavator to dig all the sewer runs, plus the trenches to the street for utilities. I am also going to dig the spetic tank hole, the hole for the rainwater collection tank, and the lateral field - probably use the FEL for that.

In KC you can install your own septic, but it has to be designed by a Geo Engineer, so that is what we did. I can get the tank for $1500 or so, then all the rest is PVC and gravel. We are going to add in a backflow preventor in the main sewer line - just in case.

you going to need to rent or buy a deacent transit, tripod and stick to make sure you gett your fall right, even with what you have to buy your going to be far ahead of paying someone to do it. It gets pretty tricky trying to navigate the trenches to back fill, make sure you plan for that while working.
i have heard several ways to "top" your gravel, everything from straw to newspaper, i always use landscape fabric. its cheep and easy to use.

 

[extrakt0r]

you going to need to rent or buy a deacent transit, tripod and stick to make sure you gett your fall right, even with what you have to buy your going to be far ahead of paying someone to do it. It gets pretty tricky trying to navigate the trenches to back fill, make sure you plan for that while working.
i have heard several ways to "top" your gravel, everything from straw to newspaper, i always use landscape fabric. its cheep and easy to use.

Are you talking about the fall for the laterals? I hadn't thought of that, I just kind of figured it used the same fall as normal plumbing?

For the utilities from the street, everything I have read says "try to get it level" but it isn't 100% important.

 

[Depmandog]

Mike,

I think your thread inadvertently got off on the "wrong foot". There has been many before you that have documented their entire build. During this long period of time (months to years) the post count climbs well into the thousands. Dozens if not hundreds of followers await anxiously for the next post. Why?

For some it appears to be a friendship develops. It is common that when TBN'rs travel they might ask permission to stop by, meet in person and get a first hand view of your project. These same people will be the first to say "great job" and "looks good"; they will also encourage you when you are down (and yes, I suspect you will have mistakes, cost overruns, days when the nails just don't drive straight). In some way, these posters take pride that they were involved and helpful during the build.

For others, they have experience they wish to share, whether it's because the particular subject matter is or was their trade, or perhaps they have travelled down your "road", and wished they had done something different. They have good intentions, and want to help. Let's face it, no one is an expert at everything.

You will be besieged with what we refer to as the safety police, who will do their best to keep you safe, whether or not you wish to hear it. They also have good intentions. They can be very persistent too.

Every day, someone will miss a post, or a week of posts, and will suggest something previously covered. Other posters are good in politely responding "the OP said this or already answered that", but it will be a constant issue, as new people find the thread.

And you will have a few that will want to post a differing position or have an argumentative response - just because they can.

So, why did I post? Oh, just my way of trying to help you. You have an opportunity to receive tons of FREE advice, from some very good people, experienced in all phases of, well, ..everything. But, you have been pretty rough on some posters, IMHO; and unless you figure out how to be less abrasive - your thread will surely die, and you will be the one losing out.

Good luck, and if you have the time, I would suggest you read build threads by Obed's and Eddie Walker (to name only two - there have been others). Both of these fellows have shown in style how to host a long term build thread.

 

[tommu56]

add 3rrl to the must read build list

3rrl

tom