New 5075M is at the dealer's!

[pclausen]

After much thought and research, I am moving toward a set of Agribibs the same size as Caledon's, 14.9R24 -- 18.4R34. I'll be able to do the upgrade for less than $3000.

Island, you tractor was delivered with the 12.4R24 / 18.4R30 combo right? So that was $2,438 over the base price. So that means your total cost to upgrade would be $2,438 + $3,000 over the base tire/wheel combo, correct?

Thanks

Peter

 

[pclausen]

Hmm... same engine, same transmission - I see. Where's the weight comin' from?

I've been wondering that myself from looking at the specs in the procure. My understanding is that the different power ratings come from tuning and maybe larger injectors, but that they are otherwise identical tractors. The larger standard tires (and standard HD hitch on the 5115M) could account for some of that I suppose.

 

[Island Farmer]

Island, you tractor was delivered with the 12.4R24 / 18.4R30 combo right? So that was $2,438 over the base price. So that means your total cost to upgrade would be $2,438 + $3,000 over the base tire/wheel combo, correct?

Thanks

Peter

In this case the calculation goes like this:

The dealer is willing to give me $5000 credit on my existing tire and wheel package, and the replacement Agribib package will cost less than $8000.

Remember the upgrade cost when buying your new tractor is just that. In other words, part of the cost of you new tractor is the stock tires, so you have a credit for the stock tires and you are paying an upgrade for you larger radials.

 

[pclausen]

I understand, but the 5085M comes standard with 11.2R24 / 16.9R30, is that what yours had that the dealer is giving you $5000 credit on, or did you tractor already have the 12.4R24 / 18.4R30 tire/wheel combo and that is what the dealer is offering you $5000 for?

 

[Island Farmer]

I understand, but the 5085M comes standard with 11.2R24 / 16.9R30, is that what yours had that the dealer is giving you $5000 credit on, or did you tractor already have the 12.4R24 / 18.4R30 tire/wheel combo and that is what the dealer is offering you $5000 for?

Yes. My tractor was already upgraded to the 12.4R24 -- 18.4R30 Goodyear radials.

 

[Island Farmer]

At this point, I think that my only remaining concern is that somehow the 14.9R24 front Agribib would reduce the turning radius. Caledon said that he was surprised that when he replaced his 12.4R24 radial with the 14.9R24 Firestone radial, there was no contact with the frame and no need to adjust the turning stops. This does make sense because I believe that there is, at least, a couple of inches space now on my tractor. I say, I think, because I didn't measure this before leaving home, and I am currently out of the state. I will call and have someone measure that available space and get back to you. Remember, the 12.4R24 is 12.4" wide and the Agribib 14.9R24 is 16.1" wide. So, there is only a gain of 3.5". Only half of that would be on the frame side.

 

[Island Farmer]

I am still out of town. I had the distance from the tire to the frame measured on my 5085M. There is about 2". So, going with the 14.9R24 would work, but it would be tight. I have looked in the tractor manual and it shows that you can set the wheels in up to eight different positions, depending on tire size, just like you can adjust tread width on the rears. So, I think there will definitely be no problem with the 14.9R24s on the front. By the way, this is not to in any way suggest that I don't have utter confidence in what Caledon tells us, only that because his tractor is a slightly different model (5105M), so I wanted to double check that there would be no problems.

 

[Island Farmer]

Hi All,

I have a couple more questions for anyone that would like to respond.

I am getting the Woods LR800 landscape rake (similar to a York rake). It will have two gauge wheels, and it could have a hydraulic angle adjustment cylinder. I have been thinking about the value of this cylinder. I don't have experience with landscape rakes, but it would seem that you would set your angle and then go to work, unlike maybe a backblade where you might want to make multiple adjustments on the fly. One possible reason to not have the hydraulic adjustment is that if you wanted to turn the rake 180 degrees and use it in reverse, you would first have to detach the cylinder. Any thoughts?

Second question:

I am planning to get a Rankin chain harrow. It is a 5/8' by 3" dual sided chain harrow. I have been doing some additional research on chain harrows, and there seem to be quite a few variations on the theme. Some are not dual sided, so when you flip them over they simply smooth whatever they are being dragged over. And, there are other differences, diameter of chain, type of steel, and design and length of tine.

It is possible to get a simple bar mounted drag harrow, or you can get one that has a 3pt frame, so that you can lift the harrow up into the air for transport or for backing up to a fence. This would be nice because it would allow you to start to drag right from the fence-line.

Island Farmer

 

[AKfish]

where you might want to make multiple adjustments on the fly.

One possible reason to not have the hydraulic adjustment is that if you wanted to turn the rake 180 degrees and use it in reverse, you would first have to detach the cylinder. Any thoughts?

Second question:

I am planning to get a Rankin chain harrow. It is a 5/8' by 3" dual sided chain harrow. I have been doing some additional research on chain harrows, and there seem to be quite a few variations on the theme. Some are not dual sided, so when you flip them over they simply smooth whatever they are being dragged over. And, there are other differences, diameter of chain, type of steel, and design and length of tine.

It is possible to get a simple bar mounted drag harrow, or you can get one that has a 3pt frame, so that you can lift the harrow up into the air for transport or for backing up to a fence. This would be nice because it would allow you to start to drag right from the fence-line.

Island Farmer;

OK, you've talked me outta that hyd. cylinder on the rake! Two pins would likely be.... well, I'm having trouble coming up with some idea of why that would be a difficult situation!?!?

I can think of alot of situations where hyd angle on a landscape rake would be the "cat's pajamas"; however.

And, you've done a very good job of convincing me that the 3pt frame is really the way to go with the chain harrow!! :thumbsup: (Unless there's 2-pins on the frame somewhere..) :laughing:

AKfish

 

[Island Farmer]

Island Farmer;

OK, you've talked me outta that hyd. cylinder on the rake! Two pins would likely be.... well, I'm having trouble coming up with some idea of why that would be a difficult situation!?!?

I can think of alot of situations where hyd angle on a landscape rake would be the "cat's pajamas"; however.

I'm not sure I follow you AKfish. Are you saying that it would be easy enough to detach the hydraulic cylinder in the event that I want to use the rake while backing up? And, that overall the hydraulic cylinder would be very nice to have? You have a York Rake, and I can only assume vast experience using it. Because I don't have that experience, I really don't know if spinning it around is something I would ever do anyway.

And, you've done a very good job of convincing me that the 3pt frame is really the way to go with the chain harrow!! :thumbsup: (Unless there's 2-pins on the frame somewhere..) :laughing:

AKfish

Unfortunately, like many of these good things the frame is an added cost, but it really does seem like it would make things a lot quicker and handier. I especially like the idea of driving to the field with the harrow in the air, then arrive drop the harrow and start dragging.

AKfish, I have been wondering how you are doing up there in the great white north? From the weather reports I have seen, it looks like it's a cold winter for you.

Does anyone have any suggestions about the design of the chain harrow: Dual sided or single? Diameter and length of tines? Maybe none of these details really matter, as long as it is big and heavy enough, it'll do just fine.