Sewer Hookup and Backhoe

[RoyJackson]

Whoa... never had to get into a contorted spot where I couldn't get away from the joint when pouring!

I was pretty good at snapping the pipe to length. Hardly ever a re-do; so, the journeymen would bring me their cuts.

AKfish

On winter mornings, in the trench...pouring the lead...yeah, easy to get splattered.

I did pretty good chisel cutting cast iron...I'd break one now and then though.

 

[Rustyiron]

When this used to be America, land of the free, they couldn't make you have to spend this money in the first place! You stated that all of the private systems of yours are working fine, right? I'm no groundwater or septic "specialist", but I would bet the bank that your (private) septic sys. has 10x LESS effect on the bay as what is being released by the sewer treatment plant!
I'm sure that you have checked it out but I'd rather spend a few bucks on a short note from an attorney, there must be some sort of "grandfather" rule. At one point in time your existing SS was aproved and inspected by the county, and to just decide that they would rather see your chit go to their plant, that you paid for and will be billed for using........ BS! What's to say that in a few years they decide that they want you to only flush on every other day? What is happening to our property rights? Oh that's right you have O'Malley! (I think that they are prepping him for a presisdntial run after obummer is out) Good luck and rent an excavator if you do it.

 

[tlbuser]

When this used to be America, land of the free, they couldn't make you have to spend this money in the first place! You stated that all of the private systems of yours are working fine, right? I'm no groundwater or septic "specialist", but I would bet the bank that your (private) septic sys. has 10x LESS effect on the bay as what is being released by the sewer treatment plant!
I'm sure that you have checked it out but I'd rather spend a few bucks on a short note from an attorney, there must be some sort of "grandfather" rule. At one point in time your existing SS was aproved and inspected by the county, and to just decide that they would rather see your chit go to their plant, that you paid for and will be billed for using........ BS! What's to say that in a few years they decide that they want you to only flush on every other day? What is happening to our property rights? Oh that's right you have O'Malley! (I think that they are prepping him for a presisdntial run after obummer is out) Good luck and rent an excavator if you do it.

OMalley is one state over, Md. Va. is McDonnell....politicians and the wannabe policitally correct folk.......we can't go there, can we?

 

[RaydaKub]

When this used to be America, land of the free, they couldn't make you have to spend this money in the first place! You stated that all of the private systems of yours are working fine, right? I'm no groundwater or septic "specialist", but I would bet the bank that your (private) septic sys. has 10x LESS effect on the bay as what is being released by the sewer treatment plant!
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I got a friend who bought a house outside of city limits with a well and septic. The city annexed his lot and then came around with a deal he just couldn't refuse. For $12g's they would hook him up to city sewer and water and plug his well and septic. Either you hook up now or it would be more like $25g's to hook up later on. And by the way, you can't sell this house w/o it being hooked to city utilities later on. Your choice though! You don't HAVE to do it...

 

[EddieWalker]

When this used to be America, land of the free, they couldn't make you have to spend this money in the first place! You stated that all of the private systems of yours are working fine, right? I'm no groundwater or septic "specialist", but I would bet the bank that your (private) septic sys. has 10x LESS effect on the bay as what is being released by the sewer treatment plant!
I'm sure that you have checked it out but I'd rather spend a few bucks on a short note from an attorney, there must be some sort of "grandfather" rule. At one point in time your existing SS was aproved and inspected by the county, and to just decide that they would rather see your chit go to their plant, that you paid for and will be billed for using........ BS! What's to say that in a few years they decide that they want you to only flush on every other day? What is happening to our property rights? Oh that's right you have O'Malley! (I think that they are prepping him for a presisdntial run after obummer is out) Good luck and rent an excavator if you do it.

The Federal Government has gotten into the sewage industry and has created a bunch of laws that have really complicated things. The local treatment plants have had to comply with the Federal regs, and have their hands tied on what they can and cannot do. Even Homeland Security has gotten involved because of the possible threat to drinking water!!!

Hiring a lawyer to fight the rules might work, but odds are that you might be wasting a lot of money fighting something that you don't have a chance in winning, and spending more money in the fight then it would cost to do what you will end up doing anyway.

Eddie

 

[ultrarunner]

A lot of Development is controlled depending on public sewer access.

The zoning might be one home per 10 acres on septic and that will change to 1 home per 5,000 square feet if public sewer become available.

 

[ametcalf]

When this used to be America, land of the free, they couldn't make you have to spend this money in the first place! You stated that all of the private systems of yours are working fine, right? I'm no groundwater or septic "specialist", but I would bet the bank that your (private) septic sys. has 10x LESS effect on the bay as what is being released by the sewer treatment plant!
I'm sure that you have checked it out but I'd rather spend a few bucks on a short note from an attorney, there must be some sort of "grandfather" rule. At one point in time your existing SS was aproved and inspected by the county, and to just decide that they would rather see your chit go to their plant, that you paid for and will be billed for using........ BS! What's to say that in a few years they decide that they want you to only flush on every other day? What is happening to our property rights? Oh that's right you have O'Malley! (I think that they are prepping him for a presisdntial run after obummer is out) Good luck and rent an excavator if you do it.

It sure looks like regulations have gotten out of hand in a lot of places but there certainly has to be some regulation. Our small town in central KY went from septic tanks to city sewer in the mid 70s. Before that you could always smell the poorly performing septic systems when you drove into town on a warm summer evening with your windows down. The wonderful, dedicated doctor in our town estimated that half the children she was seeing were the result of their playing in raw sewage. In order to hook up one of the town's restaurants we had to pump the existing septic tank, take the top off, fill it with crushed stone and run the cast iron pipe to the tap from the city. When we lifted the top off the septic tank we found the 3/4" galvanized water line feeding the restaurant was run through the tank and was leaking. As long as there was good city water pressure it probably wasn't too bad but when ever the city lost water pressure the septic water was sucked into the cities water system. I don't care for regulations especially when they go overboard but it sure would have been nice if a plumbing inspector had looked at that mess before it got covered up. You haven't really experienced the life of a plumber until you have been working in a deep manhole and have someone with diarrhea flush a toilet and dump it all on your head because some plumber or home owner thumbed their nose at the regulations and stuck the pipe from the house straight into the manhole instead of tapping the sewer main as the code called for. That wasn't one of my better days in the business.

 

[JB4310]

You haven't really experienced the life of a plumber until you have been working in a deep manhole and have someone with diarrhea flush a toilet and dump it all on your head because some plumber or home owner thumbed their nose at the regulations and stuck the pipe from the house straight into the manhole instead of tapping the sewer main as the code called for. That wasn't one of my better days in the business.

Around here that is ok to do, in fact I saved a guy over 10 grand by telling him he could do that. He had a corner lot and everyone that estimated his sewer connection job wanted to go into the street 18 feet down. I found out he had a man hole right on his yard in the right of way, on the other street side. Was a piece of cake job for the guy that ended up doing it.

Called an inside drop, generic pictures of.

It does remind me of a storey my buddy told me, they were replacing a house sewer, and told every one in the house not to use the plumbing. Well a kid came home from school and flushed the toilet, my buddy said he ended up with a turd in his rubber boot, as he was standing next to the cut pipe :laughing:

JB

 

[RoyJackson]

It does remind me of a storey my buddy told me, they were replacing a house sewer, and told every one in the house not to use the plumbing. Well a kid came home from school and flushed the toilet, my buddy said he ended up with a turd in his rubber boot, as he was standing next to the cut pipe :laughing:

JB

As you know, I was a plumber's apprentice/helper in the late 1960's.
One of the choice jobs (as a helper) was going to a home who called in a stopped up commode.
What they didn't tell us was it stopped up 3 weeks ago, and they never stopped using it.

Of course, it was the helper's job to get it ready for the journeyman plumber to fix it...

 

[ametcalf]

Around here that is ok to do, in fact I saved a guy over 10 grand by telling him he could do that. He had a corner lot and everyone that estimated his sewer connection job wanted to go into the street 18 feet down. I found out he had a man hole right on his yard in the right of way, on the other street side. Was a piece of cake job for the guy that ended up doing it.

Called an inside drop, generic pictures of.

JB

It looks like a good solution to the problem. The pipe that dumped on me was just stuck through the side with no inside drop. We did outside drops when the level of a sewer line changed at the manhole but I have never seen an inside drop. I got out of the business over 30 years ago and I am sure a lot of things have changed around here. You attached some really good pictures.
A. Metcalf