Gold rush

[Piperflyer]

Are these guys every going to strike it rich? All they do is spend, spend, spend and one hardship after another. Give it up boys....

 

[Brockwaykid]

Its only TV. They have been getting money somewhere in the offseason......

 

[clemsonfor]

This should be in rural living or the Front porch?

But anyway the wife and i love the show, even if they dont find gold. Its like real life, except the part about them being on the last dollar. No way would they have been back if they had everything in it and did not make anymoney?

What i dont understand is that they keep saying they need 100ozs this season out of the Haufman mine to let the guys take home some "gold" or a paycheck basically. BUT if you use the ball park figure of $1700/oz for gold that would mean $170,000 cash that season asssuming they hit 100oz, the anouncer and Jack and his sons mark for the season. The anouncer keeps saying it takes $1000/day in deisel fuel to run. The season they say is 150 days. So thats $150K in fuel/repairs for the season assuming no big tearups like the final drive in the trackHOe. Ok that leaves 20K for the crew to split 6 ways including 2 owners shares. Thats assuming NO return to them for the initial equipment purchase or maintence upkeep? AND assumes no Split of the gold made with the claim owner, which they are NOT! Their numbers just dont make any sense. Seems like they need closer to 200ozs of gold for the crew to take even say 10-15K apiece home. This would allow the haufmans to recoup some of their investment in the equiptment.

 

[radioman]

This should be in rural living or the Front porch?

But anyway the wife and i love the show, even if they dont find gold. Its like real life, except the part about them being on the last dollar. No way would they have been back if they had everything in it and did not make anymoney?

What i dont understand is that they keep saying they need 100ozs this season out of the Haufman mine to let the guys take home some "gold" or a paycheck basically. BUT if you use the ball park figure of $1700/oz for gold that would mean $170,000 cash that season asssuming they hit 100oz, the anouncer and Jack and his sons mark for the season. The anouncer keeps saying it takes $1000/day in deisel fuel to run. The season they say is 150 days. So thats $150K in fuel/repairs for the season assuming no big tearups like the final drive in the trackHOe. Ok that leaves 20K for the crew to split 6 ways including 2 owners shares. Thats assuming NO return to them for the initial equipment purchase or maintence upkeep? AND assumes no Split of the gold made with the claim owner, which they are NOT! Their numbers just dont make any sense. Seems like they need closer to 200ozs of gold for the crew to take even say 10-15K apiece home. This would allow the haufmans to recoup some of their investment in the equiptment.

Good point- There are alot of things that don't add up...

 

[rekees4300]

Did the 2nd season ever end? Did they hit the "glory hole"? :laughing: There are so many reruns it's hard to keep track of the timeline. What night(s) do new shows air?

 

[clemsonfor]

Did the 2nd season ever end? Did they hit the "glory hole"? :laughing: There are so many reruns it's hard to keep track of the timeline. What night(s) do new shows air?

Manwhat kind of fan are you? New shows air 9pm i think on Friday. I have a DVR that tapes new ones. They had to move to a diff claim they are more mining the top layer above rock. They predrilled this year and proved to have gold, but so far not panned out, only found like 30 ozs i think? They have less than 50 days left. Start watching. The previous week episode plays before the current weeks, this is the way all their hit shows run on history discovery and TLC normally. If you catch the right day you can see the whole season one day when they run the old shows. I think either this last sat or sun was a gold rush day. You need a DVR it tells you the original air dates adn the show number. No way i could go back to no DVR. You so much more productive in tv watching. You can watch an hour show when you want to pausing and stopping it when you need, in 45 minutes, and you never have to worry about when it comes on as it tapes and you watch stuff as it tapes. The wife and i for several years now have almost never watched anything as its actually on the TV its always taped.

 

[rekees4300]

Okay thanks for the info. The last new show I saw the Hoffmans were "on the gold" and had their first productive "clean out". Little disappointed in the first season. Wanted to see Jack and his trackhoe fall into the glory hole. That old geezer is INSANE with gold fever! :laughing:

 

[tractorshopper]

Did the 2nd season ever end? Did they hit the "glory hole"? :laughing: There are so many reruns it's hard to keep track of the timeline. What night(s) do new shows air?

Haha. No, Dakota Fred is mining the glory hole this season. The Haufman's are in the Klondike.

I too love this show. Don't know why, but it, Axe Men, and Pawn Stars are my favorite 3 right now. I also have not figured out why they only need 100 toz for these guys to make any money. With the investments and fuel, I don't see how the Haufman's can break even at 100 toz, let alone the workers make a dime. I do like their misguided resolve though and chasing a dream.

 

[Martian]

They are making a lot of money off the "tv program". There is ZERO way a bank would tell them go keep mining after making $20k to split all these different ways and they have all this machinery to pay back. I bet everyone of them makes at least $35k off it being on tv, and I bet they are paying for some of the equipment to keep the show going. I love the show, and like how they are really doing the work, and its not "dramatized" like some of these new shows, but the money side just doesn't add up...

 

[clemsonfor]

They are making a lot of money off the "tv program". There is ZERO way a bank would tell them go keep mining after making $20k to split all these different ways and they have all this machinery to pay back. I bet everyone of them makes at least $35k off it being on tv, and I bet they are paying for some of the equipment to keep the show going. I love the show, and like how they are really doing the work, and its not "dramatized" like some of these new shows, but the money side just doesn't add up...

I know a logger who met and talked to Bobby Goodson at a logging trade show. You know Owner of All terrain Logging on Swamp loggers. He said the initial contract was for 3 seasons, and that this next one he is negotiating to "get Paid". Yes i know he got paid before but in articles he has had interviews in in Southern logging times he has siad its not much and the headace of cameras producers and cam guys in the way and the "interviews" get old and are in the way. I doubt they can keep the show running off what there getting paid alone but im sure its whats keeping them going now.

 

[SPIKER]

I like the shows too, I love Shelby Swamp logger guy he cracks me up, (keep waiting for him to kill himself though.)

I'm not a miner but I watch these guys MINING and think WTF are these idiots doing!? I bet you could make a living of the tailing they are running off the ripples up in the Klondike mine. not to mention how they are finally on the bedrock seeing the gold dust in the dozer blade path in the water... then they walk away from it??? that is where they need a vacuum or water wash/suction to clean off that muddy layer where 50% of the gold has washed down too. nope drove over it with muddy dozer tracks and then drive through the creek & wash it off ??? yep they are going broke for a reason.

Mark

 

[Canada_CT230]

That show is called, "Moron Miners" in our house.

I think those guys have a few screws loose and absolutely no idea of what they are doing. I always remember thos big oil companies saying. Hey lets drill (and spend millions of $$$) for oil over there cause it feels right.

The other thing that aggravates me is that they keep saying..."..in the Klondike." Come on...Admit to your USA viewers that you are in CANADA! They are living their "American Dream" in Canada.

Well at least our gold is safe and sound in the ground.

 

[Diamondpilot]

These guys are idiots. I dont think they could get nailed in a hardware store. And to let Jack lead them, thats nuts.

Big Boot and the kid across the river could out mine that group any day of the week ten times over.

I like Shelby also. I would pay him a weeks salary to take me on a 2 hour ride in the swamp. It would be a hoot. HEAR WE GO.....

Chris

 

[woodlandfarms]

Just so we are clear, the guys do NOT get paid. The company receives a stipend, it is usually very small. What they do with that (give to the employees or ??) is not of our interest. But we (the producers) do not block them from making side money, shirts, appearances, toys, blah blah blah. The budgets on these things are really tight, there is no real money to pay the guys appearing on tv or to rent on camera machinery. I bet the car smashed in loggers cost $500 at the junk yard, and was sold to a junker for $300 and the production company sweated the cost.

 

[Gods Country]

The show is about trying to strike it rich not actually getting there. If they found the gold the show would be over. Enter a bunch of clowns that couldn't find their wives glory hole with both hands, let alone one with gold.:laughing:

 

[muddstopper]

I havent figured out how the money adds up either.. All that equipment and the breakdowns, noway they can make money with just 100oz. I also dont see how they can strip all the soil and drive thru the creeks without the EPA being all over them.

On another note, I have buddy that dredges for gold all the time. He started with a 2 1/5inch, then bought a 4inch and now has a 5inch. Told me the other day he was going to buy another 5inch and run both of the big ones this year. He finds gold in the rivers around here, and since he doesnt work anywhere, must be making a living out of it. Another guy claims to have found over $100,000 worth of Platinum in the river (different river) in one summer. I have even panned some myself, but never found enought to make it anymore than a passtime hobby.

 

[Canada_CT230]

...I also dont see how they can strip all the soil and drive thru the creeks without the EPA being all over them.

Don't worry...that is coming soon to a moron mine near you.

 

[caver]

This was posted after the first season by Dorsey who did not sign a contract with the production company. Lots of things in the first season that made no sense are explained here. Dig around on that site for what really happened last year.

 

[Martian]

This was posted after the first season by Dorsey who did not sign a contract with the production company. Lots of things in the first season that made no sense are explained here. Dig around on that site for what really happened last year.

Very interesting site, lots of interesting stuff!

 

[JoeinTX]

I watch as well out of curiosity........but it is complete BS. Know that full and up front.

It has been explained and detailed, quite well, other places on the internet what exactly the business arrangement here is. Once you understand that, it then begins to make sense as to what these various sets of "actors" and "situations" are meant to convey.

After all, if anyone involved were losing money......the "miners", Discovery Channel, etc....then the show wouldn't still be on the air. Anyone ever wonder where all of these "hard on their luck" folks at their wits end in this bad economy who are staking their last bits of their savings have been able to come up with, over and over, untold thousands and thousands of dollars for leases, equipment, and such? It doesn't add up. It can't.

For a group, whom have not produced 1/100th of the money they have put into it, can keep going on season over season.......you see the money isn't in the gold they find themselves. The "gold" is somewhere else.

It's not "reality." No where close. It's a gorilla ballet set-up and orchestrated from the get-go.

The Hauffmans are kinda pretty much idiots. Dakota Fred is not a villain...he may actually be one of the few on the show with a clue. The kid across the way from Fred isn't actually running the Big Nugget. It's in the family and he's just a tool for the Summer months of filming. No way in **** a producing gold claim as proposed gets handed off to a teenager as an afterthought.


It's one great big sham. Woodland Farms understands exactly what I mean above.

Nonetheless, it's still pretty good TV for a night. Woodland Farms also knows exactly what I mean here.