Anything but a hydro...why?

[bigbull338]

well ill tell yall a good 1 our 85hp cab fel 2wd tractor has been parked all winter.an weve been using the mx5100 hst 4x4 w/rops an fel all winter.

 

[jenkinsph]

Could you imagine how fun a geared skid steer would be with its clutches?:confused2: It seems skid steers with their hydro drive hold together ok.

I was thinking about that earlier.


My dog saw your dogs picture and said to tell him em he wants to meet him after school.

 

[DK35vince]

Could you imagine how fun a geared skid steer would be with its clutches?:confused2: It seems skid steers with their hydro drive hold together ok.

I'm not sure what a skid steer has to do with tractors?
I have thousands of hours running skid steers. Tough as nails and strong for their size. And the hydro drive system in skid steers is excellant.
I sure wouldn't want to run a gear drive skid steer.
But I use my tractors completely differant than I use a skid steer.
So a shuttle shift on my tractor works just fine for me.

 

[WM75Guy]

I am old enough to remember when "real men" drove stick shift trucks" while "windshield farmers" etc. drove automatics. Go out on a farm or construction site and compare gear v automatic.

GM does not have a stick even as an option.

 

[TripleR]

GM does not have a stick even as an option.

Thanks, I didn't know that. My brother always preferred stick shifts, but his new Chevy truck is an automatic.

 

[Soundguy]

I've never driven a mechanical shuttle .......................They say that shuttle transmissions are great for loader work, but I can't imagine that doing any amount of loader work would be practical for a clutched machine, C

funny..

you've never used one.. but don't think it will be good..


shuttle style trannies.. especially synchro ones make for decent laoder work.. with the qualities of a gear trans one might also want.

i have a ford 5 spd from the 50-60's era.. with it's 3/r on the top gate it makes for almost aan unsynchro shuttle.. and makes for decent loader work.. and it's not even a real shuttle..

 

[Reg]

So I am guessing that is why all them bulldozers, earthmovers, and excavators that use some form of hydrostatic drive are all piloted by them thar gentleman toy driving suburbanite tuxedo wearing types then huh?:laughing::laughing:

James K0UA

What Boeing put in large jet liners may be totally inappropriate for a Cesna.
Different pilot profiles too, but that may be beyond your grasp.

 

[jenkinsph]

I'm not sure what a skid steer has to do with tractors?
I have thousands of hours running skid steers. Tough as nails and strong for their size. And the hydro drive system in skid steers is excellant.
I sure wouldn't want to run a gear drive skid steer.
But I use my tractors completely differant than I use a skid steer.
So a shuttle shift on my tractor works just fine for me.

Most of the forum members don't have a separate skidsteer, they use the fel for these tasks, for this reason the hydro can make more sense.

 

[Reg]

Could you imagine how fun a geared skid steer would be with its clutches?:confused2: It seems skid steers with their hydro drive hold together ok.

I "imagine" it would/could be very much like driving a tricycle tractor and steering with brakes (only).
Those "held together" pretty well, as far as I know.

Not that a trike is appropriate for construction site work; but Hey, why stay on topic ? (-:

 

[Gary Fowler]

I dont think comparing powershift track vehicles like dozers and large loaders is any way like comparing hydrostatic transmissions. Dozers are not hydrostatic drive. A hydrostatic uses an engine to turn a hydraulic pump that then supplies power to a hydraulic powered motor that moves the tractor. That is not how dozers /large loaders are powered. They are more similar to an automatic transmission in a car than hydrostat.
As for the hydro vs gear, everyone can argue that one or the other is better but that opinion is based on their personal use and not to be confused with one machine being a better machine than the other. Each has their place which is why the tractor manufacturers make both types so many folks can have a choice. We for sure dont want to get like many other countries where you dont have a choice in what to buy as youbuy what the government dictates to be the best for you.
I will give you a good for instance, Peru, you cant buy an automatic transmission car or truck, they must be standard shift. You can import an automatic at super high duty fees if you insist on owning one. This is the same with lots of 3rd world countries who only allow standard gear drive vehicles and most if not all run on diesel rather than USA standard of mostly gasoline. Most all vehicles are limited in size of engine also so there isnt a lot of gas guzzlers around.
We are still (lucky might not be the right word) priviledged to be able to buy what we want and need at least so far. I wont go any further on the political agenda than that.